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**Jim Denning** · 1 September 2004, 12:07 AM

Re: E3 Is ?

Originally posted by Jim Denning
Haplogroup Test: your matches suggest that you belong to Haplogroup E3b. You may confirm that by ordering a Y-DNA SNP test for the E3b clade or Haplogroup.

suggest but not enuf to call

ysearch says unknown

Compare User ID Pedigree Last Name Origin Haplogroup Tested With Markers Compared Genetic Distance
QP446 Show Denning ARDAGH longford, Ireland Unknown Family Tree DNA 25 0

there is one that says E3

THEN THE HALLOPGROUP SECTION SAYS

E3 Description not yet available.

IF ITS SO OLD WHY?

20098 - 13 24 13 10 16 18 11 12 12 13 11 30 16 9 9 11 11 26 14 20 33 14 16 16 17

**A.Hunt** · 1 September 2004, 06:40 AM

Have you checked out the new HG predictor from Whitney?

**Jim Denning** · 1 September 2004, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by A.Hunt
Have you checked out the new HG predictor from Whitney?

nope do you have a link

**A.Hunt** · 1 September 2004, 01:50 PM

https://home.comcast.net/~whitathey/predictorinstr.htm

I don't care for this list reversed.

**Jim Denning** · 1 September 2004, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by A.Hunt
https://home.comcast.net/~whitathey/predictorinstr.htm

I don't care for this list reversed.

do you mean newest up top i try to adjust it but i cant

**Jim Denning** · 2 September 2004, 05:50 PM

QP446, is my code
well i attempted to find my 46 exact matches in E3 so i started in britiany and went to america and then western europe

basic searching E ,E1,E1A,E1B, ect
with a few exceptions i found nothing.
is it asumed that e shouldnt be there and thus its just not found if the person says ireland. is that why i am unknown because even though i may look e its just not dont with out another test. were as if i said syria its automatic

**A.Hunt** · 2 September 2004, 08:05 PM

Did you even locate this page?
https://home.comcast.net/~whitathey/hapest.htm

What did you come out with?

**A.Hunt** · 2 September 2004, 08:10 PM

lol at 12 markers you are 100% E3b
25 marker
E3b 93%
I1b 23%
J2 21%
E3a 13%

**Jim Denning** · 3 September 2004, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by A.Hunt
lol at 12 markers you are 100% E3b
25 marker
E3b 93%
I1b 23%
J2 21%
E3a 13%

How Well Does the Haplotype Fit the Following Haplogroups (Scale of 0 to 100):

E3a E3b G I1a I1b I1c J2 N R1a R1b
13 94 2 1 21 7 21 0 8 6
this begs the question stronger why am i unknown and most of my matches who are from britany america and western europe all unknown

12 Marker Y-DNA Matches

Exact Matches

Country (Number of Entries)
Comment
Your Matches

Australia (66) Greek 1

Austria-Hungary (48) - 1

Belarus (100) Ashkenazi (Volozhin) 1

England (3470) - 6

France (245) - 3

Germany (909) - 6

Greece (62) - 1

Ireland (1219) - 1

Lithuania (135)- 2

Lithuania (135) Ashkenazi (Volozhin) 1

Romania (105)- 3

Russia (1205) - 1

Russia (1205) Ashkenazi 1

Russia (1205) Ashkenazi-Levite 1

Scotland (1036)- 1

Sweden (95) - 6

Unknown Origin - 11

25 Marker Y-DNA Matches
One Step Mutations

Country (Number of Entries) Comment Your Matches
Greece (12) - 1

Two Step Mutations

Country (Number of Entries) Comment Your Matches

Unknown Origin - 1

3 Step Mutations

Country (Number of Entries)
Comment
Your Matches

British Isles (88) - 1

England (2110) - 1

Germany (494) - 3

Ireland (861) - 1

could it be that they just cant put ireland down as e3b?

47 exact on 12 - 22 matches in britiany and western europe and i didnt find any in ysearchs i do know

Compare User ID Pedigree Last Name Origin Haplogroup Tested With Markers Compared Genetic Distance
QP446 Show Denning ARDAGH longford, Ireland Unknown Family Tree DNA 25 0
WSRPX Wall England Unknown Family Tree DNA 12 0
QMFMW Plante La Rochelle, France Unknown Family Tree DNA 12 0
EGV8G Lancaster Colne, Lancashire, England Unknown family
Tree DNA 12 0
ARMRQ Howard England Unknown Family Tree DNA 12 0
EAZFY Gardiner Windsor, England Unknown Oxford Ancestors 9 0

94 probability and nothing can someone give me a reason?

**A.Hunt** · 3 September 2004, 12:53 PM

Jim you are unknown for two reason. To have your Haplogroup verified you need an SNP test. The second half is cause you never specified on YSearch which Haplogroup you belong in hence the reason for "unknown". Haplogroup are not automatically put in place when you transfer your Haplotype over ot YSearch it has to be manually put in place.

Allen

**Jim Denning** · 3 September 2004, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by A.Hunt
Jim you are unknown for two reason. To have your Haplogroup verified you need an SNP test. The second half is cause you never specified on YSearch which Haplogroup you belong in hence the reason for "unknown". Haplogroup are not automatically put in place when you transfer your Haplotype over ot YSearch it has to be manually put in place.

Allen

12 Marker Y-DNA MatchesExact Matches

Haplogroup Country Comment Count
E3b Australia Greek 1
E3b Lithuania - 2
E3b Romania - 3
E3b Russia Ashkenazi 1
E3b Russia Ashkenazi-Levite 1
G Belarus Ashkenazi (Volozhin) 1
One Step Mutations
Haplogroup Country Comment Count
E3b Australia Greek 4
E3b Belarus - 1
E3b Belarus Ashkenazi 1
E3b Germany - 1
E3b Holland - 1
E3b Lithuania Ashkenazi 1
E3b Poland - 1
E3b Russia - 1
E3b Russia Ashkenazi 1
E3b Sweden YAP + 1
E3b Unknown Origin Ashkenazi 1
E3b1 Russia Native Siberian 1

AGAIN LOOK AT HOLLAND GERMANY none west cept for me now that G. how did he get there lol so i changed it will the 37 make it definate i guess i lkl have to do that snp the snp should give more info then that correct

**A.Hunt** · 3 September 2004, 02:22 PM

SNP just verify certain mutation. As for my R1b the mutation is P25+. I guess it mean I had a positive at marker 25 or something rather. Sorry not sure how SNP works.

**Jim Denning** · 3 September 2004, 02:37 PM

calling angela or max

Originally posted by A.Hunt
SNP just verify certain mutation. As for my R1b the mutation is P25+. I guess it mean I had a positive at marker 25 or something rather. Sorry not sure how SNP works.

calling angela or max
do you have this answer

**A.Hunt** · 3 September 2004, 03:20 PM

Recent Developments in Y-STR and Y-SNP Analysis
http://www.ftdna.com/pdf/Butler2003b.pdf