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  • #31
    Originally posted by Gulf View Post
    This is the massage from FTDNA

    The lab reviewed the pherograms for kits M3704 and M4004.
    > Upon re-evaluation of the pherograms for each sample, the lab
    > reassigned the value of 18 to DYS#388 for sample M3704.
    > This change is now reflected in our database and a new certificate for
    > the values of M3704 will be sent. We apologize for this error in
    > reporting

    Regards
    Gulf
    Thanks, Gulf. This also makes more sense now to have the third person clustered with you and your cousin, since he's 17. I haven't had a chance to look up the article Jim referred me to, but although YCAII may be useful in clustering, I'm still betting on DYS388 as a stronger basis for J1 subgrouping.

    Vinnie

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    • #32
      Originally posted by vinnie View Post
      Thanks, Gulf. This also makes more sense now to have the third person clustered with you and your cousin, since he's 17. I haven't had a chance to look up the article Jim referred me to, but although YCAII may be useful in clustering, I'm still betting on DYS388 as a stronger basis for J1 subgrouping.

      Vinnie
      hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/HG_2004_v114_p127-148.pdf

      Excavating Y-chromosome haplotype strata in Anatolia. Cinnioğlu C, King R, Kivisild T, Kalfoğlu E, Atasoy S, Cavalleri GL, Lillie AS, Roseman CC, Lin AA, et al.

      Strictly speaking, they identified a cluster of J1 with DYS388=13 in Anatolia and the Caucasus. Whether the few Bedouin, Arab, and European cases are descended from the same common ancestor or are from independent mutations, I don't know.

      Regards,
      Jim

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