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If you have mtDNA K, I encourage you to join the K Project from your FTDNA results page. You can volunteer as much or as little information as you like.
On that site, you will see Group Administrator William Hurst's analysis of haplogroup K and several of its subgroups.
With regard to mtDNA K with 16048A, I have been collecting the places of origin of those cases found in all sources: FTDNA, Mitosearch, SMGF.org, academic papers, etc.
What I personally would like to know is where in Ireland my maternal ancestors came from. But more generally, others might be interested to see in a little more detail where mtDNA K with 16048A has been found. Here is a list.
Ireland:
County Mayo - 3
County Cavan - 2
County Tyrone -1
County Leitrim - 1
County Derry - 1
Belfast -1
Dublin - 2
County Wicklow - 1
County Galway - 2
County Waterford - 2
prob. Waterford city area - 1
County Cork - 2
County Kerry, Dingle Peninsula - 1
unspecified west - 1
unspecified east - 3
unspecified Ireland - 2
unspecified Ireland with southern surname (Tipperary - Cork) - 2
unspecified apparently Scots-Irish - 3 or more
Scotland:
Hebrides - 4
unspecified Western Isles and Skye - 3
Argyll - 1
Strathclyde - 1
Tayside-Fife - 1
Stirling - 1
unspecified Scotland - 5
"Ireland or Scotland" - 1
England:
Northumbria -1 (northernmost English county)
Durham - 1 (borders Northumbria on the south)
West Riding, Yorkshire - 1 (north of the midlands)
Derbyshire - 2 (midlands)
Isle of Wight - 1 (extreme south)
Cornwall - 1 (extreme southwest)
Wales, former Monmouthshire County - 1
Wales, Gwynedd County - 1
Total: 2
Unspecified UK - 2
Norway/Sweden - 3
Germany - 2 (I can't actually find any information on these supposed cases which appear on my FTDNA "mtDNA Recent Ancestral Origins" page)
Portugal - 1
Madrid, Spain - 1
Morocco - 1
Totals
Ireland: 31
Scotland: 16
Ireland or Scotland: 1
England: 7
Wales: 2
Norway/Sweden: 3
Germany?: 2
Portugal: 1
Spain: 1
Morocco: 1
The data indicate that:
1. mtDNA K with 16048A is found all over Ireland. I have also looked at specific sets of markers (HVR1+HVR2), and found exact matches in different parts of Ireland.
2. mtDNA K with 16048A in Scotland is more frequent in the areas closest to Ireland.
3. mtDNA K with 16048A in England and Wales does not seem to show any geographical pattern.
4. All three of the above cases in Norway and Sweden have exact matches in Ireland.
5. The five or so adoptees or children of adoptees who have mtDNA K with 16048A may safely assume that their maternal ancestry is Irish, Scots-Irish, or Scottish, with a lesser likelihood of being English and an even lesser likelihood of being Welsh, Norwegian, Swedish, or anything else.
FTDNA's K Project administrator, William Hurst, believes that our haplogroup K haplotype with 16048A must have originated in Ireland.
Two recent books on the subject of DNA agree that haplogroup K in general has been in Ireland for around 5,000 years or more. Thus, it appears there has been plenty of time for subgroups of K to develop there.
Many of the cases noted above have tested only HVR1. But if you also test HVR2, you may get a match with someone whom you can be sure is related to you, although not necessarily within the last thousand years or so.
HVR2 testing by people with haplogroup K and 16048A has revealed several further subgroups, which you can see on the "mt Results" tab on the FTDNA Haplogroup K Website.
One subgroup has the HVR2 sequence: 73G,195C,263G,315.1C,497T,524.1C,524.2A,524.3C,524 .4A
Some but not all members of that subgroup share an early American background with a coincidental movement as the American frontier moved from Virginia to Arkansas. I assume they are all descended from a Scots-Irish emigrant to America, or perhaps a pair of Scots-Irish emigrant sisters. That exact sequence of markers has also been found in County Mayo, County Leitrim, County Cavan, and (probably) County Waterford in Ireland. Thus, it is associated with where the Scots-Irish came from, but not exclusively so. That exact sequence has also been found in England, Norway, and Sweden.
Several members of that subgroup have an active, informal research effort comparing their family trees.
Another subgroup has the HVR2 sequence: 73G,195C,263G,315.1C,497T,524.1C,524.2A
This subgroup consists of eight cases of Irish or Scots-Irish descent, along with one Norwegian and one early American (English?) case, Abigail Bickford of Windham County Connecticut, born 1703. Those ten cases have no known ancestor in common. SMGF.org shows about five US families traceable to Abigail Bickford. Those American cases, and eight or more other American or Canadian cases, do not appear in the list of places of origin above.
The most detailed analysis of the 524 series of markers is in a paper by FTDNA K Project Administrator William Hurst in the online Journal of Genetic Genealogy at http://www.jogg.info/32/hurst.htm .
Good luck in your research.
Jim
Mitosearch User ID GAEWJ
If you have mtDNA K, I encourage you to join the K Project from your FTDNA results page. You can volunteer as much or as little information as you like.
On that site, you will see Group Administrator William Hurst's analysis of haplogroup K and several of its subgroups.
With regard to mtDNA K with 16048A, I have been collecting the places of origin of those cases found in all sources: FTDNA, Mitosearch, SMGF.org, academic papers, etc.
What I personally would like to know is where in Ireland my maternal ancestors came from. But more generally, others might be interested to see in a little more detail where mtDNA K with 16048A has been found. Here is a list.
Ireland:
County Mayo - 3
County Cavan - 2
County Tyrone -1
County Leitrim - 1
County Derry - 1
Belfast -1
Dublin - 2
County Wicklow - 1
County Galway - 2
County Waterford - 2
prob. Waterford city area - 1
County Cork - 2
County Kerry, Dingle Peninsula - 1
unspecified west - 1
unspecified east - 3
unspecified Ireland - 2
unspecified Ireland with southern surname (Tipperary - Cork) - 2
unspecified apparently Scots-Irish - 3 or more
Scotland:
Hebrides - 4
unspecified Western Isles and Skye - 3
Argyll - 1
Strathclyde - 1
Tayside-Fife - 1
Stirling - 1
unspecified Scotland - 5
"Ireland or Scotland" - 1
England:
Northumbria -1 (northernmost English county)
Durham - 1 (borders Northumbria on the south)
West Riding, Yorkshire - 1 (north of the midlands)
Derbyshire - 2 (midlands)
Isle of Wight - 1 (extreme south)
Cornwall - 1 (extreme southwest)
Wales, former Monmouthshire County - 1
Wales, Gwynedd County - 1
Total: 2
Unspecified UK - 2
Norway/Sweden - 3
Germany - 2 (I can't actually find any information on these supposed cases which appear on my FTDNA "mtDNA Recent Ancestral Origins" page)
Portugal - 1
Madrid, Spain - 1
Morocco - 1
Totals
Ireland: 31
Scotland: 16
Ireland or Scotland: 1
England: 7
Wales: 2
Norway/Sweden: 3
Germany?: 2
Portugal: 1
Spain: 1
Morocco: 1
The data indicate that:
1. mtDNA K with 16048A is found all over Ireland. I have also looked at specific sets of markers (HVR1+HVR2), and found exact matches in different parts of Ireland.
2. mtDNA K with 16048A in Scotland is more frequent in the areas closest to Ireland.
3. mtDNA K with 16048A in England and Wales does not seem to show any geographical pattern.
4. All three of the above cases in Norway and Sweden have exact matches in Ireland.
5. The five or so adoptees or children of adoptees who have mtDNA K with 16048A may safely assume that their maternal ancestry is Irish, Scots-Irish, or Scottish, with a lesser likelihood of being English and an even lesser likelihood of being Welsh, Norwegian, Swedish, or anything else.
FTDNA's K Project administrator, William Hurst, believes that our haplogroup K haplotype with 16048A must have originated in Ireland.
Two recent books on the subject of DNA agree that haplogroup K in general has been in Ireland for around 5,000 years or more. Thus, it appears there has been plenty of time for subgroups of K to develop there.
Many of the cases noted above have tested only HVR1. But if you also test HVR2, you may get a match with someone whom you can be sure is related to you, although not necessarily within the last thousand years or so.
HVR2 testing by people with haplogroup K and 16048A has revealed several further subgroups, which you can see on the "mt Results" tab on the FTDNA Haplogroup K Website.
One subgroup has the HVR2 sequence: 73G,195C,263G,315.1C,497T,524.1C,524.2A,524.3C,524 .4A
Some but not all members of that subgroup share an early American background with a coincidental movement as the American frontier moved from Virginia to Arkansas. I assume they are all descended from a Scots-Irish emigrant to America, or perhaps a pair of Scots-Irish emigrant sisters. That exact sequence of markers has also been found in County Mayo, County Leitrim, County Cavan, and (probably) County Waterford in Ireland. Thus, it is associated with where the Scots-Irish came from, but not exclusively so. That exact sequence has also been found in England, Norway, and Sweden.
Several members of that subgroup have an active, informal research effort comparing their family trees.
Another subgroup has the HVR2 sequence: 73G,195C,263G,315.1C,497T,524.1C,524.2A
This subgroup consists of eight cases of Irish or Scots-Irish descent, along with one Norwegian and one early American (English?) case, Abigail Bickford of Windham County Connecticut, born 1703. Those ten cases have no known ancestor in common. SMGF.org shows about five US families traceable to Abigail Bickford. Those American cases, and eight or more other American or Canadian cases, do not appear in the list of places of origin above.
The most detailed analysis of the 524 series of markers is in a paper by FTDNA K Project Administrator William Hurst in the online Journal of Genetic Genealogy at http://www.jogg.info/32/hurst.htm .
Good luck in your research.
Jim
Mitosearch User ID GAEWJ
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