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    Hi, everyone


    I just recieved my DNA print. I'm still in schock! Today, 2/3/04 .

    I have 80 perent European
    eastern ASIA 16 percent
    Native AMerican 3 percent


    Problem is that I have Native American from both side of my parents... I never heard anything about Eastern Asia. Nothing at all..Is there a difference .. Since MY MTDNA results stated that my haplogroup came out of eastern ASIA on my positive Native Match. I'm conofused..I'm still in schock.. How can i track that ancestor down since I have spanish European and NAtive.. But where did Asia come from.. No offense to anyone I think its cool but i'm very confused


    Marysol

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    Re: DNA Print ,Confused

    Originally posted by MARYSOL
    Hi, everyone


    I just recieved my DNA print. I'm still in schock! Today, 2/3/04 .

    I have 80 perent European
    eastern ASIA 16 percent
    Native AMerican 3 percent


    Problem is that I have Native American from both side of my parents... I never heard anything about Eastern Asia. Nothing at all..Is there a difference .. Since MY MTDNA results stated that my haplogroup came out of eastern ASIA on my positive Native Match. I'm conofused..I'm still in schock.. How can i track that ancestor down since I have spanish European and NAtive.. But where did Asia come from.. No offense to anyone I think its cool but i'm very confused


    Marysol
    Hi Marysol,
    dont worry, Other people have found the same thing. Your "east Asian" % will be Native American. I think basically a proportion of Native Americans have a % of the genes that were definied as "east asian". This will be because of the ancient shared ancestry of east asians and Native Americans.

    Angela.

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    • #3
      Re: Re: DNA Print ,Confused

      Originally posted by AngelaCP
      Hi Marysol,
      dont worry, Other people have found the same thing. Your "east Asian" % will be Native American. I think basically a proportion of Native Americans have a % of the genes that were definied as "east asian". This will be because of the ancient shared ancestry of east asians and Native Americans.

      Angela.
      Thanks for your theory, but that would be kind of the same source..am i right?


      mARYSOL

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      • #4
        Don't forget that in the American Southwest, Chinese immigrants came to the US by the thousands in the 1800's to build the railroads. Many of them intermarried with Native American and Mexican populations--their children may have been mistaken for Natives and Mexicans. Also, as a previous poster mentioned, Native Americans originally came to the US from Asia via the Bering Strait and then going south, so it may be a false-positive from ancestors who were Natives.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Asparagirl
          Don't forget that in the American Southwest, Chinese immigrants came to the US by the thousands in the 1800's to build the railroads. Many of them intermarried with Native American and Mexican populations--their children may have been mistaken for Natives and Mexicans. Also, as a previous poster mentioned, Native Americans originally came to the US from Asia via the Bering Strait and then going south, so it may be a false-positive from ancestors who were Natives.

          Thanks,Angela for answering my questions concerning ( Eastern Asian). Have you taken a DNA print. If you did, How did you feel about it? In this moment I am working on my Geneology Tree for Boriken ( Puerto Rico) I am a descendant of the Taino. On my mom side. I am Half Colombian/ Native...on my dad.... So, I have a little of both parents .Since fathers only passes there genes to their sons..part OF IT, I was thinking about having my dad tested for DNA print ..what do you think?Are you spanish
          ..genetically speaking.

          Marysol
          Last edited by MARYSOL; 3 February 2004, 12:30 AM.

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          • #6
            Hi Marysol,
            I haven't got a DNA print done yet, - i'm still debating whether its worthwhile in my particular case. Most of my ancestry is English or Scottish so if I were to get the test done, the results would likely tell me 100% European. Now, if my great great grandmother Mary Anne Mclean from Jamaica was still alive (which would be amazing since she was born in 1819 ) then she'd be a person I'd like to have a DNA print done. Her father David was of mixed ancestry, His father Hananal D'Aguilar was a Sephardic Jew, and his mother, Nancy Mclean (according to Davids baptism certificate) was "a free mestee woman". Likely this means that Nancy was 1/8 negro, but if the terms were used loosely to refer to any kind of admixture then, it could equally be Native American and/or a a level of admixture greater or lower than 1/8.
            Chances are I only have only about .05% of non european ancestry (which wouldn't show in the DNA print test), & I'm not yet financially willing to bet on the chance that I might have enough non-european ancestry to show in the test.
            Now, if I won the lottery.......I'd get all my mothers cousins on that family line tested too!


            In your case, getting your father to have a DNA print test might be worthwhile in the sense that you'd perhaps have a better idea of which parent gave you the "east Asian" marker genes.
            My theory is that some Native American groups probably have a higher percentage of remaining "East Asian" genes , and others have none.
            My understanding of the science behind the mtDNA and Y-chromosome tests is far greater than for these autosomal DNA print tests, so I might try to hunt some scientific papers down to see what Native American populations they did the original calibration testing on.......

            Angela.

            ps. Happy birthday!!
            Last edited by AngelaC; 3 February 2004, 03:55 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by AngelaCP
              Hi Marysol,
              I haven't got a DNA print done yet, - i'm still debating whether its worthwhile in my particular case. Most of my ancestry is English or Scottish so if I were to get the test done, the results would likely tell me 100% European. Now, if my great great grandmother Mary Anne Mclean from Jamaica was still alive (which would be amazing since she was born in 1819 ) then she'd be a person I'd like to have a DNA print done. Her father David was of mixed ancestry, His father Hananal D'Aguilar was a Sephardic Jew, and his mother, Nancy Mclean (according to Davids baptism certificate) was "a free mestee woman". Likely this means that Nancy was 1/8 negro, but if the terms were used loosely to refer to any kind of admixture then, it could equally be Native American and/or a a level of admixture greater or lower than 1/8.
              Chances are I only have only about .05% of non european ancestry (which wouldn't show in the DNA print test), & I'm not yet financially willing to bet on the chance that I might have enough non-european ancestry to show in the test.
              Now, if I won the lottery.......I'd get all my mothers cousins on that family line tested too!


              In your case, getting your father to have a DNA print test might be worthwhile in the sense that you'd perhaps have a better idea of which parent gave you the "east Asian" marker genes.
              My theory is that some Native American groups probably have a higher percentage of remaining "East Asian" genes , and others have none.
              My understanding of the science behind the mtDNA and Y-chromosome tests is far greater than for these autosomal DNA print tests, so I might try to hunt some scientific papers down to see what Native American populations they did the original calibration testing on.......

              Angela.

              ps. Happy birthday!!
              [email protected]

              mY FIANCE IS A FULL BLOODED NATIVE.I TOLD HIM ABOUT IT AND HE REFUSES TO BELIEVE THE THEORY I TOLD HIM THAT HE SHOULD GET TESTED JUST TO SEE.. TO PROVE ME WRONG, SCIENCE WRONG..HE IS DEBATING IN THIS MOOMENT ... I'M JUST CURIOUS

              MARYSOL

              THANKS,, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ANGELA..

              P.S.. TRY IT, TAKE THE TEST YOU'LL NEVER KNOW,YOU MIGHT BE SHOCK LIKE MEo

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              • #8
                Hello;Angela


                I wanted to ask you if you know if any Native American were tested to colaborate the theory that they did come from Asia long ago.Do you know if it was ever done? My mother said it was.

                Thank's
                Marysol
                Wichita;Kansas

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MARYSOL
                  Hello;Angela


                  I wanted to ask you if you know if any Native American were tested to colaborate the theory that they did come from Asia long ago.Do you know if it was ever done? My mother said it was.

                  Thank's
                  Marysol
                  Wichita;Kansas
                  The evidence that Native Americans came from Asia (at least in part), is from the fact that Native American mtDNA haplogroups are the same as mtDNA haplogroups found in Asians. So the maternal ancestors of Native Americans were Asian.

                  On the other hand the main Y-chromosome haplotype found in Native American males is Q, and the most related haplogroup to Q is R (which is very common in europeans). So therefore, the paternal ancestors of Native Americans might not have been Asian.

                  Basically, at least half the original genepool for native americans come from Asia.

                  Angela.

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                  • #10
                    Marysol,

                    What exactly was your haplogroup for mtDNA? Was it C? That is an mtDNA haplogroup common to many Puerto Ricans.

                    It is true that there is difficulty in determining the exact origin of the results for NA vs. Ea since they share common roots as Angela stated. Your results also depend on whether you had the DNAPrint 2.0 vs. the DNAPrint version 2.5.

                    If you are interested, go check out the intro under the P's in the FTDNA Surname projects and look for the intro on the Puerto Rican Project.

                    Ana


                    Originally posted by MARYSOL
                    Thanks,Angela for answering my questions concerning ( Eastern Asian). Have you taken a DNA print. If you did, How did you feel about it? In this moment I am working on my Geneology Tree for Boriken ( Puerto Rico) I am a descendant of the Taino. On my mom side. I am Half Colombian/ Native...on my dad.... So, I have a little of both parents .Since fathers only passes there genes to their sons..part OF IT, I was thinking about having my dad tested for DNA print ..what do you think?Are you spanish
                    ..genetically speaking.

                    Marysol

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by casadecoqui
                      Marysol,

                      What exactly was your haplogroup for mtDNA? Was it C? That is an mtDNA haplogroup common to many Puerto Ricans.

                      It is true that there is difficulty in determining the exact origin of the results for NA vs. Ea since they share common roots as Angela stated. Your results also depend on whether you had the DNAPrint 2.0 vs. the DNAPrint version 2.5.

                      If you are interested, go check out the intro under the P's in the FTDNA Surname projects and look for the intro on the Puerto Rican Project.

                      Ana
                      Hola; casa de coqui

                      My Mtdna is haplogroup A. The A and C is very common in Boriken. I don't know. I just took a DNA print. I'll check it out. is there any difference s between the two?

                      Marysol

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                      • #12
                        Marysol,

                        You will find information about ABCD and X haplogroups if you go to this site and read the article re mtDNA and the Taíno:

                        Kacike.org

                        Click on the Contents link. The articles are both ib English and Spanish.

                        Ana


                        Originally posted by MARYSOL
                        Hola; casa de coqui

                        My Mtdna is haplogroup A. The A and C is very common in Boriken. I don't know. I just took a DNA print. I'll check it out. is there any difference s between the two?

                        Marysol

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by casadecoqui
                          Marysol,



                          Hello;

                          Thank you for sending me that link. we are going to Boriken this April. I'm gathering all my genealogy when i GET THERE..yES. i TOO HAVE tAINO iN MY FAMILY. hAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE jATIBONICU tAINO OF bORIKEN.. aCTIVE nATION?

                          Marysol

                          ou will find information about ABCD and X haplogroups if you go to this site and read the article re mtDNA and the Taíno:

                          Kacike.org

                          Click on the Contents link. The articles are both ib English and Spanish.

                          Ana

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