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  • #16
    Magyar Y-DNA

    Originally posted by J Man
    I wonder if the Huns left any traces at all of Y-DNA in Europe? I am thinking that they most likely did not.

    Anyone have any ideas about which haplogroups the Huns may have had? I am speculating most likely O, R1a1, C and possibly N.
    Not that I am equating Hun and Magyar DNA, but our Hungarian Bukovina project (which is mainly composed of Szekely) now has 82 members, and shows the following Y-DNA numbers and percentages:

    R1a= 20= 24%
    I1b=17=21%
    R1b1=11=13%
    E3b=10=12%
    J2=6==7%
    I1A=5=6%
    G2=4=5%
    I1c/I1b2a=3=4%
    Q=3=4%
    One each N and L

    Project Website:

    http://www.familytreedna.com/public/...ovinaSurnames/

    By the way, my friend Bernadett Csanyi's article on Magyar/Szekely DNA (including y-DNA findings from ancient Hungarian burial sites) has been accepted for publication by The Annals of Human Genetics, and should be in print within the next three months. She is working with a research group in Hungary at the University of Szeged.

    Beth Long

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    • #17
      Beth:

      interesting, the 3 Q's would indeed seem to represent a (small?) Asian contribution, though of course it could be the Magyars, not the Huns. Most of the rest seem to fit in the general European background.

      cacio

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      • #18
        European Human Genetics Conference 2007
        June 16 – 19, 2007
        Nice, France
        Abstracts

        European Journal of Human Genetics


        P1193. Analyses of mitochondrial and Y-chromosomal
        lineages in modern Hungarian, Szekler and ancient Hungarian
        populations

        B. Csányi1, G. Tömöry2, E. Bogácsi-Szabó1, Á. Czibula1, K. Priskin1, M.
        Mórocz1, A. Szécsényi1, A. Csősz2, B. Mende2, P. Langó2, K. Csete3, A. Zsolnai4, I. Raskó1; 1Institute of Genetics,Biological Research Center, Hungarian Academy of Sciences, Szeged, Hungary, 2Archaeological Institute, Hungarian Academy of Sciences, Budapest, Hungary, 3Department of Forensic Medicine, University of Szeged, Szeged, Hungary, 4Research Institute for Animal Breeding and Nutrition, Herceghalom, Hungary.

        Hungarian population belongs linguistically to the Finno-Ugric branch
        of the Uralic language family.

        High-resolution mtDNA analysis of 27 ancient samples (10th-11th centuries),
        101 modern Hungarian, and 76 modern Hungarian-speaking
        Szekler samples was performed. Only two of 27 ancient Hungarian
        samples are unambiguously Asian: the rest belong to one of the western
        Eurasian haplogroups. Statistical analyses, including 57 European
        and Asian populations, revealed that some Asian affinities and the
        genetic effect of populations who came into contact with ancient Hungarians
        during their migrations are seen. Though strong differences
        appear when the ancient Hungarian samples are analyzed according
        to apparent social status, as judged by grave goods. mtDNA results
        demonstrate that significant genetic differences exist between the ancient
        and recent Hungarian-speaking populations.

        The Y-chromosomal base substitution ”Tat”, proved to be a valuable
        marker in the Finno-Ugric context. The Tat C allele is widespread in
        many Uralic-speaking populations, while it is virtually absent in recent
        Hungarians.

        To further elucidate this finding we studied this polymorphism on 100
        modern Hungarian, 97 Szekler and 4 ancient Hungarian samples. Our
        data revealed that only one Szekler men carries the C allele among
        the modern individuals, whereas out of the four skeletal remains two
        possess the mutation.

        Furthermore we examined 22 Y-chromosomal binary markers to analyze
        the paternal genetic diversity of the two recent populations.
        Our results show that Hungarians and Szeklers share basically the
        same genetic components found in other European populations, genetically
        closely related and close to other populations from Central
        Europe and the Balkan.

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