ABDNA Test Results...

[Maria_W]

I just got back my test results for both my mother and father.

My mother is: European 89%, Asian 0%, Native American 7% ,(helps confirm my 10%), SSA 4%. (The 4% was a surprise, no known Sub Saharran Africa). I can't open up the cd that they gave me to look at the bar graph. I want to see the less likely percentages.

ABDNA says my fathers best estimate is: European 100%. Want to see the less likely score because they say that is also possible. So... I can now understand other peoples frustration when they get an unexpectded result!

Maria

[tomcat]

Maria,

In this instance, I would write AbDNA and ask them how you are to find the 10% NA they accorded you, given the 3.5% NA inheritance they accord you from your mother (1/2 of 7%), and 13% NA you ought to be able to expect on your father's result (1/2 of 13% is 6.5% that when added to the 3.5% equals 10% - your score).

Tom

[marvallen]

I would think those levels are well within the measurement's "noise" levels and thus questionable, at best.

[tomcat]

The 'predicted' (predicted by AbDNA on Maria's results) 13.5% NA is NOT within the AbDNA fudge factor for NA vis-a-vis Indo-European.

[Maria_W]

Unexpected results...

Hi everyone.

OK so I can have a higher score than my mothers. I assumed hers needed to be higher. Guess not. While I was hoping for a higher Native score(her high end range is 18%) I am just happy that she got 7%, backs up my 10%. Proves to me the heritage is there. Also, what helps is I am in constant contact with Bill Deyo, tribal historian, (he is also a distant relative of mine, comes from Wahangonochges daughter Kiziah, sister to my Mary). I am very perplexed as to how my father ended up with 100% European ( although they say from 0-5% is possible )when we traced his ancestors back to the same tribe that my mother is from. My mother comes off of Mary, daughter to Wahangonoche, Weroance of the Potowomecke through Rev/Parson John Waugh(He is responsible for the policy of seperation of chruch and state because he was always interferring in politics. He almost started a war between Maryland and Virginia. He was a handfull!) My father comes off of Arroyah, Native American name/Keziah, Christian name, another daughter to Wahangonoche, Weroance of the Potowomecke though the Elkins line. Now when I called to check on my fathers results they said that they had to do a rerun on it becasue it failed. Now that was last week and here I have the results dated August 30. Doesn't make sense. They are saying his results werent even done on the 30th when I called them. What they did the results and printed them within a few hours. In this case I do beleve they are wrong. My father is not expected to live very long and I told them that, he might pass away before the test results come back. Did they just push them though!

Maria

[tomcat]

Maria,

As AbDNA scored you 10% NA you can reasonably expect to see AT LEAST 20% NA across both parental tests. Parents can be more NA than their children but children cannot be more NA than their parents. Siblings, of course, could get readings at variance with one another.

In your case, your 10% NA result was predictive of parental results.

So, are they going to redo your father's test?

[tomcat]

Maria,

... just wanted to make myself CLEAR. Had you tested your parents first, their results would have been indicative of what you could expect on your test but not predictive. In example, lets say they each got 10% NA, that would lead your to expect an NA score on your test but would not assure you of a particular % of NA, your NA score could be 10% or less or none at all. But because you tested first, your 10% NA score is predictive, your parents' tests MUST evidence, between them, at least 20% NA. The fact that they do not evidence a collective 20% invalidates your results.

The question is; which result is correct?

[Maria_W]

Somethings not right..

Tomcat:
O.K. now I'm confused. My moms results were 7%, (not higher than mine)but could be as high as 18%. So the score of up to 18% is possible ? So if her score of up to 18% is correct then it would be higher. But my dads doesn't seem correct! His results 0, with possible range of 0-5% No way is it even in the right range. If we hadn't traced him back to the Potowomecke in Virginia then it wouldn't even be a issue. But we did...Just so everyone knows, I have absolutely no problem with whatever ethnic mixture I am. My father isn't as sick today as he was yesterday. Hopfully we will have a good day.....

Maria

[Maria_W]

Not yet...

I haven't talk to ABDNA yet about my fathers results... I want to do my 2 brothers, 1 sister, 2 daughters and 1 grandaughter still. $Will be 1440.00. But worth it.

Maria

[Maria_W]

Upset!

What? My test results are invalid! So my proven heritage counts for nothing if my fathers results don't come up 13% So if they won't retest then what. I just throw it away. I really don't need this right now. My father is literally dying in the next room! Yes, I am very sensitive right now. Wonder why?

Maria

[tomcat]

Tomcat:
O.K. now I'm confused. My moms results were 7%, (not higher than mine)but could be as high as 18%. So the score of up to 18% is possible ? So if her score of up to 18% is correct then it would be higher. But my dads doesn't seem correct! His results 0, with possible range of 0-5% No way is it even in the right range...

I agree, your father's results don't seem right. And your parents' collective scores don't validate yours without the invocation of the elastic rule.

One would think AbDNA could have managed 13% EA for him

There was a post on two-generational AbDNA scores somewhere in these forums. In that case, although there was a mis-attribution for the child - EA for NA despite a parental NA reading - the percentages were perfect, the child was clearly a 50/50 blend of the parents, and that extended to a very minor SSA component. So, I assumed that even though AbDNA might blow the attributions they always got the numbers right. Maybe not.

[rainbow]

In my case I am sure of paternity because I had the paternity test & order of filiation done many years ago.
What I doubt is AncestryByDna because I have no known Amerind ancestry and I have NO DNATribes Amerind matches.
Of course before I doubted DNA Tribes because they gave me my second highest match to Mozambique. In my updated extended I still match Zulu & Tswana (South Africa), albeit just above the 1.0 mark.

[tomcat]

... What I doubt is AncestryByDna because I have no known Amerind ancestry...

That 17% must be 17% of 'something else' if not Native American.

[rainbow]

That 17% must be 17% of 'something else' if not Native American.

I just started a new thread of my easternmost matches. I wonder if my DNA Tribes Chinese Turkestan matches could be what AncestryByDna is mis-interpreting as Native American.

[burto]

Hi Maria,
Why are they saying your results are invalid? I was going to do the test myself to see if I come up with East Asian or Native American.
Hope everything's ok with your Dad.