disproving the bering Strait theory

[dnaval]

Here is an interesting link I found

http://www.edenseve.net/discovery_casts_doubt_on_bering_.htm

[rainbow]

I think some came by land, some by sea.
Polynesians test 21% Native American.

The ones that came by sea may have come purposely, or from a massive tidal wave/tsunami.

I think the Australian Aborigines got to Australia via a tremendous tsunami/tidal wave, beyond the scale of any we've seen in modern times, and that is how they were 'birthed' into Australia. Aborigines say their legend says they were birthed to the land, did not migrate there from another land (Africa). I think they don't remember the previous land, and only the 'birthing'. If I were in a massive tsunami I might forget all that happened beforehand also. If I washed up on shore of some island, I'd think I was 'birthed' there too.

A tsunami. Just a theory.

[dnaval]

Rainbow

This is extremely interesting about the tsunami and Australia.
It just goes to show we have much more to learn about Native
Americans.
Does your Tribes report show any Australian matches?
Assuming you have done this test.
I noticed a previous post about your
Ancestry test that showed Native American.
You had stated that you weren't sure if you looked
NA.
I can asure you that you are definitely NA
Your face and features look someone like Choctaws,
in Oklahoma. There are many other tribes you also favor.
I would just go on yahoo images and search some tribes and photos.
I lived around many NA cultures and have an eye for this.

Good luck Rainbow!

Valerie

I think some came by land, some by sea.
Polynesians test 21% Native American.

The ones that came by sea may have come purposely, or from a massive tidal wave/tsunami.

I think the Australian Aborigines got to Australia via a tremendous tsunami/tidal wave, beyond the scale of any we've seen in modern times, and that is how they were 'birthed' into Australia. Aborigines say their legend says they were birthed to the land, did not migrate there from another land (Africa). I think they don't remember the previous land, and only the 'birthing'. If I were in a massive tsunami I might forget all that happened beforehand also. If I washed up on shore of some island, I'd think I was 'birthed' there too.

A tsunami. Just a theory.

[rainbow]

This is extremely interesting about the tsunami and Australia.
It just goes to show we have much more to learn about Native
Americans.
Does your Tribes report show any Australian matches?
Assuming you have done this test.
I noticed a previous post about your
Ancestry test that showed Native American.
You had stated that you weren't sure if you looked
NA.
I can asure you that you are definitely NA
Your face and features look someone like Choctaws,
in Oklahoma. There are many other tribes you also favor.
I would just go on yahoo images and search some tribes and photos.
I lived around many NA cultures and have an eye for this.

Good luck Rainbow!

Valerie

Thank you Valerie
Choctaw?
I have no known Native American ancestry. My mom's nickname for me, mostly when I was little, was "Tallulah". She'd call me that on the playground and other kids would think I lied to them about my name. Tallulah means "leaping water" in Choctaw.
Thank you for telling me I do look NA.
My mom always thought I must have Mongolian/Hun on my fathers side. My 17% NA is from my father. My mom has 00% NA.
When I was a pre-teen I knew a girl whose interest was in make-up/skin tones. She said, by my inner wrist, that I had yellow undertones, that it means I must be part Chinese or Asian. I told her that my mom thinks there is Mongolian on my fathers side, assuming it was mixed in with the Czech.

Yes, my DNATRIBES matched me to Australian Aborigines, West Polynesians, Maori, Uyghur (western China, near Mongolia), and many more. I have 254 matches.
My world region matches do not include Native American.
My DNATRIBES results do not confirm AncestryByDna results.

I did the math for my 17%. It means my father would be 34%. His mother would be 68% (excluding his fathers side, who were Czech, and the Mongolian theory). For her to be 68% she would have to have one full-blood parent and the other was about 1/3 NA, if it is recent. Carlisle is a possibility. Or, it is from many generations of intermarriage, as was done in South America. Maybe each wife thru the generations was part Indian.
Either way, 17% means I had twenty-two (22!) full-blood great-great-great-great-great grandparents. (five greats)

Everyone has 128 GGGGG grandparents, 32 from each grandparent.
22 out of 32 GGGGG grandparents on my paternal grandmothers side. I know of only 2 of the 32 on her side, neither had Indian names. There are 39 unknown. Of the 30 unknown, 22 had to be Indian. And it could be from one-time period, before the Indian Removal Act.

[dnaval]

Rainbow

If you have any more pictures let me know.
You can e-mail it to me if you like at:
[email protected] then, I can tell more.
Yes I would say Mexican or Choctaw,Alaskan etc.
Did you do a native panel?
I know your tribes test has been inconsistant
with the ancestry test,but,
I heard ancestrybydna is more reliable.

You could be part native and asian so
dna tribes gets your matches confused.
Just a thought.

Val

Thank you Valerie
Choctaw?
I have no known Native American ancestry. My mom's nickname for me, mostly when I was little, was "Tallulah". She'd call me that on the playground and other kids would think I lied to them about my name. Tallulah means "leaping water" in Choctaw.
Thank you for telling me I do look NA.
My mom always thought I must have Mongolian/Hun on my fathers side. My 17% NA is from my father. My mom has 00% NA.
When I was a pre-teen I knew a girl whose interest was in make-up/skin tones. She said, by my inner wrist, that I had yellow undertones, that it means I must be part Chinese or Asian. I told her that my mom thinks there is Mongolian on my fathers side, assuming it was mixed in with the Czech.

Yes, my DNATRIBES matched me to Australian Aborigines, West Polynesians, Maori, Uyghur (western China, near Mongolia), and many more. I have 254 matches.
My world region matches do not include Native American.
My DNATRIBES results do not confirm AncestryByDna results.

I did the math for my 17%. It means my father would be 34%. His mother would be 68% (excluding his fathers side, who were Czech, and the Mongolian theory). For her to be 68% she would have to have one full-blood parent and the other was about 1/3 NA, if it is recent. Carlisle is a possibility. Or, it is from many generations of intermarriage, as was done in South America. Maybe each wife thru the generations was part Indian.
Either way, 17% means I had twenty-two (22!) full-blood great-great-great-great-great grandparents. (five greats)

Everyone has 128 GGGGG grandparents, 32 from each grandparent.
22 out of 32 GGGGG grandparents on my paternal grandmothers side. I know of only 2 of the 32 on her side, neither had Indian names. There are 39 unknown. Of the 30 unknown, 22 had to be Indian. And it could be from one-time period, before the Indian Removal Act.

[Maria_W]

Very strong ethnic look.

Rainbow,

First thought was that you looked Native American, Hispanic or Asian. Isn't that interesting, that your mother called you Tallulah, which Valarie stated is Choctaw. I live in Mississippi, where the Mississippi band of Choctaw Native Americans live. Their reservation is outside of Philidelphia, Mississippi. Nashoba Cty. They run the Silver Star and Golden Moon casinos. Up till recently Phillip Martin was their cheif. Have you thought about redoing the test. If it comes back within that same range, then chances are, its probably correct. 17% is well past the threshold for noise.

Maria

[dnaval]

Redoing the ABDNA test

I may take this again also.
Curious if DNA print does all
ABDNA testing?
Such as Genetree..Healthanddna etc.

Val

Rainbow,

First thought was that you looked Native American, Hispanic or Asian. Isn't that interesting, that your mother called you Tallulah, which Valarie stated is Choctaw. I live in Mississippi, where the Mississippi band of Choctaw Native Americans live. Their reservation is outside of Philidelphia, Mississippi. Nashoba Cty. They run the Silver Star and Golden Moon casinos. Up till recently Phillip Martin was their cheif. Have you thought about redoing the test. If it comes back within that same range, then chances are, its probably correct. 17% is well past the threshold for noise.

Maria

[tomcat]

I may take this again also.
Curious if DNA print does all
ABDNA testing?
Such as Genetree..Healthanddna etc.

Val

Yes, yes, yes. There are only two autosomal tests. DNAPrint is, has been, the market segment leader. Most everyone that offers an autosomal test is a reseller of DNAPrint's AbDNA 2.5

For an alternative see: www.dnatribes.com

[rainbow]

Did you do a native panel?
I know your tribes test has been inconsistant
with the ancestry test,but,
I heard ancestrybydna is more reliable.

You could be part native and asian so
dna tribes gets your matches confused.
Just a thought.

Val

I did order the native panel last year. I had 1.25 for Alaskan Athabaskan.
Everything else was well under 1.0.
But my extended report a month later had Alaskan Athabaskan dropped to under 1.0
DNATribes did not give me world region scores for the Americas or Asia.
I matched Asia Minor, not Asia. I have a high Finno-Ugric score also.

[dnaval]

Rainbow

Your Alaskan was fairly high 1.25 ,not bad at all.
at least for a Native panel result.
Maybe if they add more North American markers
you will get a good match with some American tribes.
I did this NP also and got .17 for ecuador(inca)
Next matches were Mayan(Mexico).05
Later after doing the Penta D and E
the Native panel was much lower.
It was odd too, because my Mestizo on
Global went up.
My West African went to East African.
In the 1.05 range.
So I guess my point is Dna Tribes isn't exact yet.
But I'm no expert yet

Dnaval

I did order the native panel last year. I had 1.25 for Alaskan Athabaskan.
Everything else was well under 1.0.
But my extended report a month later had Alaskan Athabaskan dropped to under 1.0
DNATribes did not give me world region scores for the Americas or Asia.
I matched Asia Minor, not Asia. I have a high Finno-Ugric score also.

[PDHOTLEN]

sea faring

Early peoples read nature to know what was over the horizon. One of the obvious ways was to observe the migrating birds. When land or shore birds migrated back and forth over water, it doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to deduce that there is land in that direction.