ABDNA and Phenotype...

[Cinda]

Hi guys,
This is me & my pride & joy, my 6 yr old grandson. My hair has been touched up by a stylist, but that's pretty close to my natural color. I was a bit redder as a child. It's also, as you can see, a little over a year old.
Cinda

[Cinda]

Sorry, I forgot to add my autosmal results from AncestrybyDNA.
78% Northern European, 20% Middle Eastern, & 2 % South Asian.
Cinda
Here's a close up picture of me.

[rainbow]

I have a cropped pic of my father. In natural sunlight his hair is light brown, as is mine.
For me to be 17% NA, and my mother has none, that means he would be 34% more or less.
Here it is:

http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fatherki5.jpg

[burto]

Hi Daniel ;Thank you for the photo insert ,should I think about travelling to Spain to look for ancient ancestors ? Any thoughts ? Thank you ,KAT.

Hi Kat,
You do look Spanish to me...or French..does that help or confuse things?!

[burto]

Rainbow, how did you get an avatar? I can't work it out and wanted to put a piccie of Mum on there for the phenotype/AbDNA debate!

[rainbow]

Rainbow, how did you get an avatar? I can't work it out and wanted to put a piccie of Mum on there for the phenotype/AbDNA debate!

http://www.ftdna.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3840

I sulked in this thread and someone from FTDNA saw it and emailed me to say I could have an avatar. I emailed a link to a pic to him and 'presto!' I have an avatar.

[burto]

Hi,
Well as you can see my Mum is now on my avatar! Would love to know whether you guys think there is any truth in the East Asian and South Asian scores!
She is 50% English and 50% unknown American.

[dnaval]

Photos attached....Hope this helps your phenotype study..

ABDNA 12% NA and 88% IE

Top matches world are Denmark,Poland,Flemish,Mestizo was a suprising 11.0
on Penta D & E....

Native Panel Top Score:

Ecuador .17
Mayan .05

[dnaval]

phenotype

Oh... from my previous post...ABDNA 12% NA 88% IE
High Mesizo 11.0 on DNA tribes world..
Ecuador and Mestizo must come from my fathers side who is from Aruban/Venezuelan.
Although family tree on his side all Dutch/French(so I thought)
Mother's side is all Irish/British decent
(so I thought)My grandmother was born in chickasaw nation territory.
Whatever that means...

Let me know if anyone sees phenotype or anything else but European in my attachment pics.
Cause I don't....

Val

[tomcat]

Hi,
Well as you can see my Mum is now on my avatar!...

Please tell Mum I think she is Bee-yew-ti-full.

[burto]

Please tell Mum I think she is Bee-yew-ti-full.

Will do, but any thoughts on her father's origins based on her and her results?
She looks nothing like her Mum.

[Pleroma]

Trying to guess the origin of the phenotype is a little like trying to win real money at the casino but I'll put in my two cents worth anyway.

Cinda- you look very Eastern European----perhaps even Baltic. The shape of your face and eyes says to me Baltic Sea.

Rainbow- your dad looks very Native American.

Burto- although the photo is very small your Mom could very much have a Native heritage. She reminds me a little of June Carter Cash http://junecartercash.com/ who likely had a native background.

dnaval- you look very British Ilses to me. You remind me a little of this actress from Coronation Street (a British soap opera) http://tim-peters.fotopic.net/p27232897.html

[rainbow]

Will do, but any thoughts on her father's origins based on her and her results?
She looks nothing like her Mum.

Your mom looks a lot like my mom. I think your mom looks English.

My mom also has dark eyes & dark hair and delicate facial features that she gets from her mother. They look similar to Paul McCartney.
My mom is English (Norman) on her mothers side and Scottish/Welsh/English(Jute) on her fathers side. But I found that both sides had some Swiss (her mothers side had French-Swiss, her fathers side had German-Swiss).
Even the Norman side has some distant Scottish (Stewart), etc.

I've seen similar-looking northern Italian and French people. Maybe your mom is also part Swiss?

[rainbow]

Rainbow- your dad looks very Native American.

He had no part in raising me and we are estranged. In the few times I've been around him I can tell you that he says and staunchly believes he is Czech, English, and Dutch. I took him to court for a paternity (HLA?) test, years ago.
He hangs out with and plays chess with NY Russian Jews who tell him they think he is Jewish. He would probably have no interest in getting his dna tested except to see if he may be part Jewish. His wife is half Jewish (Russian).
He would never in a gazillion years think there is Native American on his side, because his mother is from an old New Jersey Protestant Dutch-English family. His father was from a Roman Catholic family, and left Catholic church and married my grandmother.
I wish I had his blood sample from the court lab, Roche, to test his ABD & dnatribes, but I don't.

Oh to see the look on his face if he were to find out he is part Native American and not Jewish.

I feel he does sense that there is 'something there' that he doesn't know about and that is why he is open to suggestion.

I've always felt that there is 'something else' in my blood.

Who knows, maybe there is Jewish ancestry too?

[burto]

Your mom looks a lot like my mom. I think your mom looks English.

My mom also has dark eyes & dark hair and delicate facial features that she gets from her mother. They look similar to Paul McCartney.
My mom is English (Norman) on her mothers side and Scottish/Welsh/English(Jute) on her fathers side. But I found that both sides had some Swiss (her mothers side had French-Swiss, her fathers side had German-Swiss).
Even the Norman side has some distant Scottish (Stewart), etc.

I've seen similar-looking northern Italian and French people. Maybe your mom is also part Swiss?

My Mum is half English, half unknown American. She has often had people here in England say "where are you from?" and I must say she doesn't look like people of pure English heritage here!
She looks nothing like her mother, who I would say looks English based on face shape, cheek bones, jawline and complexion.
I've traced her maternal family history back to the 1500's and our ancestors were all English.
Her father was described as "Italian looking" but I wonder if AbDNA's asian results actually relate to her looks?