My results are in

[juan carlos]

And I really don't know what they tell me. My Y hg is R1b1, while my Mt hg is H.

I have received my 25 marker results and there is a -2 mismatch, or should I call it match, with someone who does not share my surname, but has a Spanish surname too. Both of my lines came from the Canary Islands, but I see that my haplogroups seem to be the most common in Europe. In this case, if this person and I had a common ancestor, it must have been a long time ago and the reason he does not share my surname could have to do with the fact that there was a time when even two brothers could choose different surnames or maybe it was something else. What would I gain, if anything, by contacting this person? I still have to receive my 37 marker results.

Also, what would I learn by asking for a subclade test?

When it comes to my mtdna results, there is person in Canada who has the same results on the HVR2 section and a + 1 mutation on the HVR1. I just don't see any relation to me there. Also, what else would I learn if I were to test for subclades, haplotypes or whatever those are called?

Would I learn the region in Europe where my lines originated and among what ethnic groups they are most often found?

I still have a lot to learn and there is sometimes too much information that seems too complicated.

[vineviz]

I have received my 25 marker results and there is a -2 mismatch, or should I call it match, with someone who does not share my surname, but has a Spanish surname too. . . . .What would I gain, if anything, by contacting this person? I still have to receive my 37 marker results.

A 23/25 match is not very strong. Your common ancestor could easily have lived more than six hundred years ago, so you probably don't have a lot gain by contacting them. On the other hand, what do you have to lose?

Also, what would I learn by asking for a subclade test?

Not much. It might give you some insight into where your ancestors lived in prehistoric times, but it also might not. In any case, I'd wait until you have your full 37 marker results before deciding.

When it comes to my mtdna results, there is person in Canada who has the same results on the HVR2 section and a + 1 mutation on the HVR1. I just don't see any relation to me there. Also, what else would I learn if I were to test for subclades, haplotypes or whatever those are called?

Would I learn the region in Europe where my lines originated and among what ethnic groups they are most often found?

Possibly, but the dispersion of haplogroup H is so great that even if you knew the subclade, there is a good chance that it would not be a reliable indicator of any sort of ethnic heritage.

[Stevo]

Also, what would I learn by asking for a subclade test?

Y-Haplogroups and their subclades are characterized by SNPs (Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms). Right now your y-haplogroup, R1b1, is a prediction based upon your haplotype (your specific set of STR markers). An SNP test is necessary to confirm your y-haplogroup.

It can also give you more specific geographic and perhaps ethnic information.

I would also like to recommend you have a Deep SNP-R1b because the data benefit not only you but all of your brother R1bs (like me).

The more men we get tested, the more data we accumulate, the more we learn about R1b and our ancestors.

I also hope you will consider upgrading at some point to 67 markers for the same reason.

Please join us at the new R Forum. We'd love to have you there!

Here is a link to the Y-Haplogroup R Tree. It will show you which SNPs characterize which subdivisions of Y-Haplogroup R.

Congratulations on your results, and welcome to R World!

[juan carlos]

Thanks for your invitation. I did check the forum and registered. However they said I would be sent the confirmation to my e mail address and, so far, I have not seen it. Also, I would do some of those tests if I had the money, but since I just took the Y37+Mtdnaplus, it'll have to wait a while. R1b1 and H are really widespread in Europe. I received a list of supposed matches from all over the continent. From Eastern Europe and the British Isles to the Iberian Peninsula! I'll see what the final results bring. Also, I guess the certificate they talk about will be sent with the last results because I have not seen it yet.

[Stevo]

Thanks for your invitation. I did check the forum and registered. However they said I would be sent the confirmation to my e mail address and, so far, I have not seen it. Also, I would do some of those tests if I had the money, but since I just took the Y37+Mtdnaplus, it'll have to wait a while. R1b1 and H are really widespread in Europe. I received a list of supposed matches from all over the continent. From Eastern Europe and the British Isles to the Iberian Peninsula! I'll see what the final results bring. Also, I guess the certificate they talk about will be sent with the last results because I have not seen it yet.

I think you membership in the new forum has probably been activated by now.

I understand having to wait for further dna testing. I'm still waiting to order a mtDNA test.

I've done all the y-dna stuff I can for now.

Anyway, welcome, Juan Carlos! Glad you're R1b1!