Native results on Omnipop.

[Maria_W]

Love to see results!

taba2Much.
I thank you for posting your Omnipop results. I am fortunate in the respect that I already knew that I was Native American before I had my DNA done. This just is another method of verifying what I already knew. What I do have to work on, is finding the other tribe or tribes that make up the rest of the 10%. I will be waiting to get your E-18 results. I would love to see every one elses results. Were all searching for the same thing! Maria

[Maria_W]

Here is a partial list of my E-19's.

PBSO African American 1.07
Chinese 1.09
Tunisian 1.22
Florida African American 1.36
Japanese 1.67
Lumbee Native American 1.83
Korean 1.85
Connecticut Hispanic 2.54
Texas African American 2.93
Connecticut African American 3.05
Dhangar, India 3.41
RCMP Salishan(Coastal B.C.Canada) 3.52
Virginia African American 3.59
Japanese 3.77

Maria

[Maria_W]

Native/Hispanic results!

Ethnic group: Native American
Percentage DNA wise: 10
Tribe: Potowomeck
Language group: Algonquian
State: Virginia
County: Stafford and King George

Here are the results from Omnipop and how many entries in that category.

Native American: 12
Hispanic: 16
Portugese: 1
Brazillian: 3
Spanish: 2
Argentinian: 1
Mexican: 1
Canary Island: 1?

For a total of 37. These range from E-16 to E-22.

[burto]

Well this is mum's situation:
Father unknown American.
Mother Anglo Saxon
Father described as "Italian looking"

Out of top 35 scores ranging from E15-E16:
Top Score: Argentinian E15

Native American:1
Hispanic:7
Mediterranean countries:7
Middle East:3
Indian:3
Caucasian:15 and a combined Caucasian?

Looking at this and your scores it does suggest to me some definate Mediterranean if nothing else!

[burto]

Here is my first 25 from Omnipop. DNA Tribes said I have no Native American even with a 1.1 Mestizo and all the listed Hispanic and a couple of Native American matches from Omnipop!

Do you have known Native ancestry?

[burto]

Hi Maria,
I guess I'm not sure if it's any more or any less helpful than the DNA Tribes Report, but what I'm thinking is that they may have a different set of samples from DNA Tribes from which they compare. I put my Gram's markers in (her ABD2.5 was 82% Sub-Saharan African & 18% European, but her DNA Tribes report was very Indian & Asian, mtDNA = L3). The numbers don't help much because the chance of finding an exact match among a particular population exceeds the actual sizes of the population, but I find it fun anyway.

Gram's markers were only among 99 of the 179 populations in the calculations: Top 5 -
Moroccan Arabs 6.71E+18
Inupiat (Alaska) 2.11E+19
Portuguese 2.51E+19
Korean 3.81E+19
Trinidad African American 6.65E+19

Last: 5.22E+24

That's interesting that you've got an African American score in your top 5...noone else who has put their scores on here has any SSAF related scores in their top 30 and sure enough we think we are predominantly Caucasian....does Omnipop overall seem quite African American or African for your scores? Ignore highest and lowest for a minute and just look at the overall pattern-are the results over 80% African related? This would give us a good understanding as you know your Gram is strongly of African descent and could give us an idea of the reliability of the scores.

[Black Dutch]

Do you have known Native ancestry?

Yes, going back to the mid 1700's we connect to the Pamunkey Tribe of Virginia. I have been told by some that since it is so far back, most DNA tests will not pick it up. ABDNA showed 92% IE and 8% EA with up to 5% NA (red bar). DNA Tribes stated that a score of 1.0 or higher is significant, but said my 1.1 Mestizo does not indicate Native American?

[burto]

Yes, going back to the mid 1700's we connect to the Pamunkey Tribe of Virginia. I have been told by some that since it is so far back, most DNA tests will not pick it up. ABDNA showed 92% IE and 8% EA with up to 5% NA (red bar). DNA Tribes stated that a score of 1.0 or higher is significant, but said my 1.1 Mestizo does not indicate Native American?

How interesting...your ABDNA scores were very similar to Mum's...she got 89% European 11% East Asian with up to 10% Native on the red significance bar.
She got 1.2 Mestizo and a few Hispanic disporia. What is also interesting is both you and Maria have known ancestry that dates a good while back but we all are getting similar scores through various databases and tests.
I think this goes to show that once again you can't rely on the test results 100% to prove something. You know you have NA ancestry, go with that. For me it's a case of guessing and I think NA is highly likely although we will never know from what tribe. That together with the US connection, O blood group, lactose intolerance, dare I say it some physical traits and just a "feeling" although that's not scientific!
Thanks for sharing.

[Maria_W]

Not Native according to who?

I am so tired of other people defining who is native and who isn't. Well now thats very weird. That doesn't make sense. I had a 2 times less likely score up to 18% Native but my most likely estimate was 10% so thats what I am settling at. I have 10% Native American on my AncestryByDNA score. I have verified Virginian Algonquian, Powatan Condereracy( the Pumunkey fall under this group, we are sorta related)Potowomeck, from Stafford and King George County. So your most likely estimate of 8% Asian could actually be 8% Native American. I have read and heard that they are so close to each other that sometimes they get confused. DNA wise I do not look Native American, I guess my 10% isn't enough to bring those features out. my skin is light but not casper the ghost white, my eyes are blue, and my hair is brown. Now my husband who i suspect is mixed, has darker skin, brown eyes, brown hair. Finally talked him into testing with AncestrybyDNA. Just a thought! Maria

[Noaide]

If you read the DNATribes blog, I am sure that the police may sometimes get the wrong clue from the standard CODIS and chasing the wrong race of the criminal, but of course if they have more than the 13 CODIS markers in their databases it may help to discriminate much better.

Noaide

As an officer I can tell you that it is used in serious crimes such as murders and rape or other cases where you have DNA left at a scene with no witnesses. It was recently used in a case in S. Florida where a suspect was believed to be one race and the DNA said differently. When the suspect was found the DNA was correct.

[burto]

I am so tired of other people defining who is native and who isn't. Maria

Sorry if I offended you in any way Maria I didn't mean to, just meant that you and Black Dutch have known NA ancestry...you're lucky!

[Black Dutch]

If you read the DNATribes blog, I am sure that the police may sometimes get the wrong clue from the standard CODIS and chasing the wrong race of the criminal, but of course if they have more than the 13 CODIS markers in their databases it may help to discriminate much better.

Noaide

That is true and a good example is my Great Uncle whose #1 match was India (high score:yellow) according to DNA Tribes. We have no known ancestors from there going back to the early 1700's. They were almost exclusively from Great Britain.
If his DNA was found at a crime scene, the police would be looking for a person of East Indian descent exclusively.
In the future as the database grows maybe he will match another race, but even the last update still has him being from India. Only other thing I can think of is his DNA got mixed up at the lab.

[Maria_W]

Burto you misunderstood!

Burto.
Oh no, I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the U.S.government and how they define us! I am so sorry you misunderstood. Maria

[Maria_W]

Burto come talk!

Burto.
I feel badly that the way I stated it, it sounded like I was offended by you. There was just a miscommunication. I was talking to Black dutch about the fact that he has native heritage and they are telling him that he isn't. And I said "Not Native according to you? "Otherwise, who defines whats native, the government? Yes, I was blessed in the fact that I do know my Potowomeck native heritage. Now this is the problem, I know that there is at least 1 other tribe involved. So while I have a general idea of the area I still am left with not knowing some of my ancestors names and tribe or tribes. So in away we are both searching for the same! Come on back and lets talk! Maria

[burto]

Hello I am here there's just a time difference being in Merrie Olde England
Don't worry about it I was just more concerned that I'd offended you!