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  • PDHOTLEN
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    Me too (R1a1)

    My eyes are getting tired afftter trailing down thru all the messages. But here is my unsophisticated two cents.

    My Y-dna results (67 markers) from FTDNA gave me R1a1. As far as I know, which isn't a whole lot, my father's line is from the Sognefjord region of Norway. But since I haven't seen him since I was 16 years old, I haven't been able to ask him such questions.

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  • fantome
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    Thanks everyone!!

    I thank you all very much for taking the time to help me with the test interpretations. I shall study everything and follow the leads that you have suggested.

    Sincerely,
    fantome

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  • lgmayka
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    Originally posted by fantome
    Below is my Y-DNA data, Thanks:
    Are you 7Q9V9 on Ysearch, or a close relative of his? You are an exact 37/37 match with him:

    http://www.ysearch.org/search_view.asp?viewuid=7Q9V9

    Although he doesn't know it, I suspect that his ancient ancestry is indeed Jewish Levite. (The name LeVin might originally have been simple Levin, Levine, Levi, etc.) Many Jewish Levite men are R1a1, as explained in this paper by Levy-Coffman:

    http://www.jogg.info/11/coffman.pdf
    ---
    The majority of Levites shared a common haplotype, indicating a shared common ancestor among them, but this haplotype occurred within haplogroup R1a and, more specifically, within subgroup R1a1.
    ...
    In a subsequent Levite study, the modal haplotype reported for Ashkenazi R1a1, known as “H6,” was reported to occur twice as often as the second most common R1a1 haplotype among Ashkenazim, known as “H10” (Nebel et al. 2005). Out of a sample of 55 individuals, 25 had haplotype “H6” and 12 had haplotype “H10” (Nebel et al. 2005, Supplementary Material).
    ---

    You have this haplotype H6. Here is a fuller list of your nearest neighbors in the Ysearch database:

    http://www.ysearch.org/search_result...ting_marker=22

    The conclusion here is that your particular pattern of marker values does appear to be associated with Ashkenazi Jews, probably Levites. However, please keep in mind that R1a1 is not an ancient Middle Eastern haplogroup. Hence, as Levy-Coffman says in the paper I cited above, this R1a1 must have entered the Jewish community in Eastern Europe through some form of intermarriage or conversion. She suggests Khazaria as an intermediary. Khazaria was a medieval state that chose Judaism as its official religion. When Khazaria fell, its nobility and/or priesthood apparently joined the larger Jewish community, perhaps often as Levites.

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  • fantome
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    Information for IGMAYKA

    Hello again,
    Below is my Y-DNA data, Thanks:


    Locus
    DYS#
    Alleles


    1
    393
    13

    2
    390
    25

    3
    19*
    16

    4
    391
    10

    5
    385a
    11

    6
    385b
    14

    7
    426
    12

    8
    388
    12

    9
    439

    10

    10
    389-1
    13

    11
    392
    11

    12
    389-2
    30

    13
    458
    14

    14
    459a
    9

    15
    459b
    9

    16
    455
    11

    17
    454
    11

    18
    447
    24

    19
    437
    14

    20
    448
    20

    21
    449
    30

    22
    464a**
    12

    23
    464b**
    12

    24
    464c**
    15

    25
    464d**
    15

    26
    460
    11

    27
    GATA H4
    11

    28
    YCA II a
    19

    29
    YCA II b
    23

    30
    456
    14

    31
    607
    17

    32
    576
    20

    33
    570
    22

    34
    CDY a
    34

    35
    CDY b
    34

    36
    442
    14

    37
    438
    11

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  • lgmayka
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    Originally posted by fantome
    It is my understanding that my heritage is probably Jewish, Ashkenazi-Levite, and possibly from Russia.
    As others have pointed out, R1a1 is the majority haplogroup in modern-day Poland, Ukraine, and Belarus, and is common across the Slavic countries and to a lesser extent in Scandinavia and the British Isles as well.

    If you give us your Ysearch username, we can try to give you more information on your probable ancestry. Have you uploaded your DNA results to Ysearch (semi-automatically, from the hyperlink on your Y-DNA Matches tab)? If you wish to remain anonymous, simply change the name on the entry to 'Name Withheld'.

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  • cacio
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    fantome:

    as Stevo was saying, R1a is typically Eastern European (Russia, Poland etc.), where it is the largest group, but is also present in good numbers in Central and Western Europe (and India). Around 10% of the Ashkenazi Jews belong to R1a, but that represents an influx of Eastern European Y chromosomes into the Jewish community then living in Eastern Europe, not viceversa (the largest Jewish haplogroup is J). So if at all, it is a sign of Eastern Europe. I don't know much about its subgroups as well as the STR significance, I'm sure others will help.

    cacio

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  • Stevo
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    Here is a link to an interesting article on R1a.

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  • Stevo
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    R1a1 does not necessarily mean Jewish ancestry. In fact, the vast majority of R1as are not Jewish and do not have Jewish ancestry.

    More later. No time now.

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  • Stevo
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    Here is the first section of the Y-Haplogroup R Tree from the ISOGG website here.

    R M207 (UTY2), M306 (S1), S4, S8, S9
    • R* -
    • R1 M173
    • • R1* -
    • • R1a SRY10831.2 (SRY1532)
    • • • R1a* -
    • • • R1a1 M17, M198
    • • • • R1a1* -
    • • • • R1a1a M56
    • • • • R1a1b M157
    • • • • R1a1c M64.2, M87, M204

    Look at your results and run down the tree.

    You are M207+, and that makes you an R (like me and most European guys).

    You are M173+, which makes you R1 (again, like most of us Euro guys).

    You are M198+, and that is what makes you R1a1.

    M124- means you are not R2.

    M157- means you are not R1a1b.

    M343- means you are not R1b.

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  • fantome
    started a topic R1a1 SNP test results- interpretation?

    R1a1 SNP test results- interpretation?

    Greetings all,
    I have just received SNP test results with R1a1 confirmed and the following results:

    M173+ M56-
    M198+ M87-
    M207+ SRY1083.2-
    M124-
    M157-
    M343-

    It is my understanding that my heritage is probably Jewish, Ashkenazi-Levite, and possibly from Russia. Is this correct or should I be looking at other possibilities from the test results? A Jewish history has never been mentioned in my family though many had Jewish first names and a Jewish root- surname . They are now all deceased. This could have been known, however, but hidden by them. Thanks for your help.
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