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    25-marker haplotype diagrams:
    http://haplogen.orgfree.com/latest25.php

    37-marker haplotype diagrams:
    http://haplogen.orgfree.com/latest37.php

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    Victor

  • #2
    Nice to see you again in this forum, Victor . With all your knowledge and skills you would be such a good coordinator for the E3b, E3*, and E* Project, as Freeman now is quiting. But it sure means a lot of work, as Freeman himself expressed it: "It has become a full time job, and I do not get compensation for my work."

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    • #3
      Originally posted by LeoLoS
      Nice to see you again in this forum, Victor . With all your knowledge and skills you would be such a good coordinator for the E3b, E3*, and E* Project, as Freeman now is quiting. But it sure means a lot of work, as Freeman himself expressed it: "It has become a full time job, and I do not get compensation for my work."

      I HAVE 10 PROJECTS SO I CANT BUT I CAN HELP IF I CAN

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      • #4
        I hope all you E3b men will register for and participate in the new E3b Forum.

        We welcome you wholeheartedly.

        Please help get this brand new forum up and running and take part in all aspects of the forums there.

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        • #5
          Hi Leo,

          I got John Freeman's email too (see quote below) where he announces he's unable to continue managing the project. Ever since the E3b project started and I decided to join, there were at least a couple of ocassions when I offered my help but that was it.

          He's asking the members to elect somebody to replace him but is not going to be easy to get in touch with everyone and decide what to do in the few days left before the 17th. Hopefully we'll get some input from E3b members here in the coming days.

          If I get a vote of confidence from the E3b members that post here I'd be willing to take over the project, at least temporarily, until something more definite is decided. I'd be a pity if the project disolves and then we have to start over. One thing I would like to comment, though, is that broadening the project beyond E3b to include E3* and E* makes its scope too wide and potentially unmanageable. What do you think?

          Victor



          September 10, 2006

          To all members of the E3b, E3*, and E* Project:

          I no longer have the time to manage and research the information for the E3b, E3*, and E* Project. It has become a full time job, and I do not get
          compensation for my work. I will only work as coordinator of this project until
          next Sunday, September 17, 2006. I am asking the members to elect somebody else to replace me after September 17.

          Respectfully,

          John Freeman

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          • #6
            You'll get my vote, Victor. I enjoy your drawings that show up every little while that show how numbers from project members relate to each other. In the coming months I hope to contrubute with more markers.

            I see the future of DNA testing as becoming huge soon (I myself have conviced a few people to join the Genographic Project) and can see it being exhausting to keep up with. I agree that including E* and E3* might become unweildy very quickly. Who knows, maybe soon anything beyond E3b1 and its soon to be discovered divisions might be too much...

            What I see as the ideal description of this project is, to quote Blackadder, "Broad in vision, narrow in purpose."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Victor
              If I get a vote of confidence from the E3b members that post here I'd be willing to take over the project, at least temporarily, until something more definite is decided. I'd be a pity if the project disolves and then we have to start over. One thing I would like to comment, though, is that broadening the project beyond E3b to include E3* and E* makes its scope too wide and potentially unmanageable. What do you think?

              Victor
              You get my vote too and I agree with you that only E3b is enough for this project.

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              • #8
                Victor, you have my vote for taking over the e3b project. I certainly have learned considerable information from you. I also agree with you that opening up the scope of e3b to e and e3 would be very difficult to manage. I think they should be taken on by someone else who has a vested interest in this area. It is possible as time goes on that e3b1, e3b2, e3b3, and m78* could all be potentially there own projects.

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                • #9
                  Victor has my full support

                  I can think of no one better qualified to shepard the E3b project than you, Victor, and you can count on me to help out in anyway I can. Thanks for thinking about stepping up to the plate.

                  I haven't been visiting or using the info nearly as much as we were say six months ago but that is primarily because of the major discrepancy between FTDNA's and ISoGG's nomenclature for the sub clade differentiations.

                  I would also like to see FTDNA start displaying the defining SNPs whenever they have actually been determined through testing.

                  I hope to attend the FTDNA Conference in November and plan to ask questions as to why the foot dragging on the above issues?

                  At the present time the inclusion of E3* and E* doesn't appear to be overpowering as they are few in number - might be a good idea to give them a recognised active locale to reside in until they accumulate enough data points to be split off as a project of themselves.

                  Just a few additional thoughts - but you are the man! - run it as you see fit.

                  Bill





                  Originally posted by Victor
                  Hi Leo,

                  "If I get a vote of confidence from the E3b members that post here I'd be willing to take over the project, at least temporarily, until something more definite is decided. I'd be a pity if the project disolves and then we have to start over. One thing I would like to comment, though, is that broadening the project beyond E3b to include E3* and E* makes its scope too wide and potentially unmanageable. What do you think?"

                  Victor

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                  • #10
                    New Leader for E3b

                    Victor: I appreciate you volunteering to become the administrator of E3b and I will be willing to help. I think we should do something to show our appreciation to John Freeman for his long and dedicated work. Bob Winborn (N2386)

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                    • #11
                      If you have the time Victor, you have my vote.

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                      • #12
                        New management

                        Thanks to everyone for your suggestions and ideas. If you have a way of contacting other E3b members, please ask them to express their opinions in this forum regarding John Freeman's notice.

                        I would like to wait a day or two to allow other voices to be heard (read) and then get in touch with John to organize a transition.

                        If everything works all right we can organize a small team and plan/decide together what improvements we can implement for the project.

                        Victor

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                        • #13
                          E3b and E Project

                          Originally posted by Victor
                          Thanks to everyone for your suggestions and ideas. If you have a way of contacting other E3b members, please ask them to express their opinions in this forum regarding John Freeman's notice.

                          I would like to wait a day or two to allow other voices to be heard (read) and then get in touch with John to organize a transition.

                          If everything works all right we can organize a small team and plan/decide together what improvements we can implement for the project.

                          Victor
                          It seems most think you are the most qualified person to administrate the E3b Project, and I am one of them. I think you would do a great job!

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                          • #14
                            Agreed. I think we should do something to show our appreciation to Mr. Freeman.

                            Also, I can think of none better than you, Victor, to lead the project during our little interregnum. I'd be happy to help where I can as well.

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                            • #15
                              I hope all of you guys will participate in the new E3b Forum.

                              A few of you have already signed up.

                              Thanks!

                              I hope the rest of you will, too.

                              You can use avatars there and post polls and photos.

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