Tribes scores

[tomcat]

Thanks Tom and Maria -

OK, guess then i'll have to decide about re-testing and adding on the Extended Report..........or just keeping my fingers crossed and sending for an update down the road. i could use that Southeastern data too!

Meanwhile i'll hold off on the NA panel -

i appreciate your input!

Jodee

No need to re-test (your alleles don't change), just ask for an Extended, costs the same as an update, $25. Thereafter everytime you update you will get an updated copy of the Top 20 and an updated Extended.

[Jodee]

No need to re-test (your alleles don't change), just ask for an Extended, costs the same as an update, $25. Thereafter everytime you update you will get an updated copy of the Top 20 and an updated Extended.

Thats sure good to hear - thank you!
Jodee

[tomcat]

Hello ;I ve received more no. s from FamilyTree ,only two ,but will show ,These are my initial no. s D3S1358-15 ,18 , TH01- 9.3,9.3 ,D21S111-29,30 , D18S51-14,16, D5S818- 10 ,12 , D13S317-12,13 , D7S820-11,11 , D16S539- 11,14 , CSF1PO- 11,13 ,vWA- 16,16 ,D8S1179 -14,15, TPOX 11 ,11 ,FGA - 20,25 ,& these are the two latest ,I m still waiting for more from Batch 186 , D19S433 - 13,14 , D2S1338-17,24 .Any comments appreciated ,thank you ,Kat. !

Top Ten on ENFSI, all E-13:

Portugal 7.6037
France/Toulouse 6.6121
Ireland 5.3914
Germany 5.2843
Scotland/Dundee 4.4575
Switzerland 4.0036
Italy 3.6510
Slovenia 3.2047
Sweden 3.1435
Scotland/Glasgow 3.0001

[tomcat]

Hello ;I ve received more no. s from FamilyTree ,only two ,but will show ,These are my initial no. s D3S1358-15 ,18 , TH01- 9.3,9.3 ,D21S111-29,30 , D18S51-14,16, D5S818- 10 ,12 , D13S317-12,13 , D7S820-11,11 , D16S539- 11,14 , CSF1PO- 11,13 ,vWA- 16,16 ,D8S1179 -14,15, TPOX 11 ,11 ,FGA - 20,25 ,& these are the two latest ,I m still waiting for more from Batch 186 , D19S433 - 13,14 , D2S1338-17,24 .Any comments appreciated ,thank you ,Kat. !

Top Twentyone on Omnipop 9 Green Cell. All E+10:

Apache 1.14
Mozabites 2.67
Egyptian 2.91
Karan 4.04
PBSO/BCWP Native American 5.02
Trinidad African American 5.56
Berbers of Morocco 5.73
CA Hispanic 6.03
Basque 6.94
CT Hispanic 7.58
Golla 8.04
Paraguayan 8.24
Khandayat 8.30
FBI Hispanic 9.00
Mexican 9.14
AZ Hispanic 9.35
North & Central Moroccan Berber 9.51
Moroccan Arabs 9.51
NCSBI/CMPD Hispanic 9.64
Moroccan Arabs 9.51
Maghreb 9.76

[Kathleen Carrow]

There is some discussion at the Rootsweb DNA site about FTDNA's possible intent to have an interactive for the autosomal markers they have tested.
They seem to feel that OMIPOP and possibly ENSFI is not the way to go for population studies.

What is Cluster software ? Is that what is used at DNA-FP for the XSTR markers?

[tomcat]

There is some discussion at the Rootsweb DNA site about FTDNA's possible intent to have an interactive for the autosomal markers they have tested.
They seem to feel that OMIPOP and possibly ENSFI is not the way to go for population studies.

What is Cluster software ? Is that what is used at DNA-FP for the XSTR markers?

Post a link please.

[Kathleen Carrow]

Did not think about that..
link to thread..

http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GENEALOGY-DNA/2007-03/1173898440

[tomcat]

Did not think about that..
link to thread..
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read...-03/1173898440

Everyone on this thread, or any of the many autosomal threads running on this forum, ought to read that rootsweb thread.

Profile matching (Omnipop, Tribes, ENFS, CSFS) is not getting-at the information people want. Admixture mapping with STR's is not terrific and many more markers would be needed to get anywhere with admixture. We need another approach.

[camoe]

Everyone on this thread, or any of the many autosomal threads running on this forum, ought to read that rootsweb thread.

Profile matching (Omnipop, Tribes, ENFS, CSFS) is not getting-at the information people want. Admixture mapping with STR's is not terrific and many more markers would be needed to get anywhere with admixture. We need another approach.

I beginning to agree here after a month or so of research with 3 siblings, nothing really looks conclusive and the bit about the poplation sizes skews everything.

Is it just me or do there seem to be an unusual amount of matches with populations in Spain? I've seen more than a few results from people and it's amazing how many Spain, Basque, Northern Spain matches there are.... If I had to quess, the population size is unusually large for DNATribes.

Cheers

[Nagelfar]

Is it just me or do there seem to be an unusual amount of matches with populations in Spain? I've seen more than a few results from people and it's amazing how many Spain, Basque, Northern Spain matches there are.... If I had to quess, the population size is unusually large for DNATribes.

Cheers

I have this problem with the OmniPop map. I have no known Spanish ancestry (my descent is NW European) but my best matches are overwhelmingly Spain/Portugal.

[kat]

Omnipop Scores

Hello List & Tom , Tom ,thank you very much for your response ! I m pretty hopeless at this , a lot of Spanish ( Hispanic ,Basque ) Can you translate for me , ie., All E + 10 ,what does this mean ? I do have more results ,surprising !! Will send them as well ,thank you ,again , B.J.

[kat]

X-STR MARKERS PANEL 1-from KAT

Hi ; Here are my X-STR Markers Panel 1 -see previous mail ; DXS10011-30,32.2 , DXS10066 -9 ,23, DXS10067-15,16 , DXS10068- 17,21, DXS10069-16,17, DXS10131-9,10 . Any interpretation would be greatly appreciated, Thank you ,in advance, KAT. !

[tomcat]

Hello List & Tom , Tom ,thank you very much for your response ! I m pretty hopeless at this , a lot of Spanish ( Hispanic ,Basque ) Can you translate for me , ie., All E + 10 ,what does this mean ? I do have more results ,surprising !! Will send them as well ,thank you ,again , B.J.

The E# is the exponent, scientific notation or shorthand for the number of zeros not seen in the numerical result - makes the numbers easier to read and compare. Add the zeros and you get a better sense of the probability of an actual match - very, very low in all cases but more likely in some cases than others.

[tomcat]

I have this problem with the OmniPop map. I have no known Spanish ancestry (my descent is NW European) but my best matches are overwhelmingly Spain/Portugal.

Match scores from Tribes, Omnipop. ENFSI, CSFS do not necessarily denote ancestry, they merely express the probability of your allelic profile matching the allelic profiles of the referenced populations.

It is possible that one's allelic profile, which is, after all, a composite of one's parents' profiles, may better match populations with which one shares no direct ancestry.

Your Iberian matches are, at least, European.

[tomcat]

Hi ; Here are my X-STR Markers Panel 1 -see previous mail ; DXS10011-30,32.2 , DXS10066 -9 ,23, DXS10067-15,16 , DXS10068- 17,21, DXS10069-16,17, DXS10131-9,10 . Any interpretation would be greatly appreciated, Thank you ,in advance, KAT. !

Would be better to post this in the X Testing thread.