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    Okay Guys,

    Really need some help here

    My mum has been diagnosed Terminal she has ovarian cancer.
    I have tried unsucessfully to identify her father for many years, but now it is very urgent, I want to make this happen for her.

    I have no idea about DNA stuff, but i got the family finder test done for her and now have results,

    Can anyone help me to try and confirm the results and point me in the right direction.

    Top result is a mr ****** name removed for privacy
    Shared Centimorgans, 142
    Longest block 52

    Can anyone help me please..


  • #2
    First, I'm very sorry about your mother. It's good you are trying to help her at this time.

    From the amount of DNA shared that you posted, the relationship may be second cousins once removed, half second cousins, first cousin three times removed, half first cousin twice removed, based on current statistics. You would need to see if the match has a tree, or contact him to find out his ancestry, and compare it to whatever you may know. If you don't know much or anything about your mother's father, this may take more work and a long time, unfortunately. You will likely have to get other matches and gather more information before you can determine who the father might have been.

    There are several charts showing relationships based on the amount of DNA shared. Here are two:
    If you look at the chart in the second link above, you can see that the possible common ancestor for 1st to 2nd cousins would be a grandparent or 1st great-grandparent.

    In the meantime, are there any maternal relatives for your mother who could do the Family Finder test? A maternal aunt, uncle, grandparent or cousin of hers would be good; also any siblings with the same mother as your mother, but not the same father. If such a maternal relative tests, he or she can be used to filter your mother's matches into a maternal list, and the remaining matches would be more likely to be from her father's side (although some could still be from her mother's side).

    One thing: it is not good to post the names of your matches in a forum post. See "Communication" in the FTDNA Forum FAQ,, where it says:
    Community members shall not:

    Disclose the personal information of others, such as name and or e-mail addresses of your matches, without their written consent. Names, e-mail addresses, or other contact information of genetic or genealogical researchers or professionals is fine as this information would be publicly available.
    Last edited by KATM; 18 July 2018, 07:27 AM.


    • #3
      Kyle, I am not a big fan of AncestryDNA, but it does have the largest database and will pick up recent matches reliably. You should have her test with Ancestry as quickly as you can (that test requires filling a tube with spit so I hope that is not a problem). You also need to upload her Family Finder test to so that it can be compared with people who tested with other services and have chosen to put their results on

      Good luck!



      • #4
        And I would add, if you decide to do another test such as Ancestry's, to go ahead and also have her do a kit from 23andMe (if she is willing and able, and you can afford it), because neither of those two companies accept uploads. 23andMe also requires a spit sample, though.

        If your mother will test at either of the above two companies, but she has any difficulty providing a saliva (spit) sample, you might want to try the method outlined at "How to do an AncestryDNA test WITHOUT spit," which should also work for 23andMe.

        With your mother's FTDNA Family Finder file, you can register an account for her and upload to (as georgian1950 has suggested), and also upload to myHeritage if you wish. That way, you would have her at as many of the current genetic genealogy testing companies as possible, often called "fishing in all ponds."

        Note that you will have your hands full keeping track of all the matches when there are results from multiple companies, so be prepared. Read DNA blogs and Facebook groups such as DNANewbie or the ISOGG groups, and perhaps try out some of the software suggested (DNAPainter for one, and another I became aware of yesterday: "DNA Match Manager," which allows downloading matches from multiple sites in minutes - I have not tried this program, though). It would be a good idea to learn as much as you can about DNA testing for genealogy; one book highly recommended is Blaine Bettinger's book, "The Family Tree Guide to DNA Testing and Genetic Genealogy."
        Last edited by KATM; 18 July 2018, 12:51 PM.


        • #5

          thanks for the info guys,

          is there any real reliable dna genetic geanealogical
          researchers i could pay to do the legwork here and really get the ball rolling in the right direction..

          i need fast results, even if it leads nowhere ., we just need to know what we can know with the information available now.

          money is not an issue, but time is.

          so if anyone knows someone who can really get into this quickly please let me know, i will pay for whatever testing is needed, i have already sent off for the ancestry test, ordring the 23 and me now.

          also her mother is still alive and can submit a test too.
          but she is no good for info, general consensus is at the time she was a bit of a tart, and has no idea who the father is, although she tells a story, which has turned out to be a complete lie and costed us thousands already.

          please guys real hardcore specialist required!!!


          • #6

            Kyle, Roberta Estes should be able to help you and/or head you in the right direction.

            Good luck.


            • #7
              You could also try DNA Detectives. Perhaps either that site, or Roberta Estes, could refer you to someone else if they are unable to accommodate you.


              • #8
                Originally posted by kyletudor View Post
                also her mother is still alive and can submit a test too.
                but she is no good for info, general consensus is at the time she was a bit of a tart, and has no idea who the father is, although she tells a story, which has turned out to be a complete lie and costed us thousands already.
                I'm sure any professional genetic genealogist would also advise that you test your maternal grandmother (your mother's mother, who you say above is alive and can test). If money is not an issue, test her at the same places you test your mother. Having your mother's mother tested is the perfect choice to help to "phase" or separate out your mother's maternal matches from her paternal matches, better than testing any other maternal relatives.