If YOU ARE ONE, BE ONE

[F.E.C.]

Yeah, it is strange. My FTDNA personal page says confidently, "R1b1," and YSEARCH has me listed as R1b1.

Yet the R1b Project has me listed as R1.

I am also a member of the Steffen Project (a project separate from Stevens/Stephens), and it has me listed as R1 on its y-results page, too.

I crunched the 25 markers that I have thus far into Whit Athey's y-haplogroup predictor and came up with a score of 66 for R1b. Any score of 50 or higher is supposed to be a pretty sure bet that one is a member of that haplogroup.

As you said, DMac: weird.

66 is good Stevo, I had only 65...

See you tomorrow folks, I'm outta here looking for wine!

[Stevo]

66 is good Stevo, I had only 65...

See you tomorrow folks, I'm outta here looking for wine!

Oh, okay. I feel better.

The distance between my score for R1b and my score for R1a was 48.

M. O'Connor has a distance there of 56, and he had a higher score for R1b (77).

I wonder if that makes any difference.

Drink some wine for me. I think I'll have some vodka a little later, after it gets dark, but I'm staying home.

Vodka! Maybe I am R1a! (Just kidding!)

[Stevo]

Here's something that gives hope to all R1b's who used to consider membership in that haplogroup as a banishment to "plain vanilladom." David Faux, the president of EthnoAncestry, and an R1b1c10 (S28+) himself, had an interesting posting on the Genealogy-DNA list this afternoon. He reports on what he is able to say about his deep ancestry, based on his paper trail research of his ancestors, his knowledge of history and his S28+ status.

Read his posting at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read...-05/1148755371

Mike
R1b1c9* (S21+)

Fascinating stuff, Mike. From the Danish Vikings all the way back to the Thraco-Cimmerians!

Shades of Conan the Barbarian!

It's cool how we are learning more about R1b all the time. Like David, I have near-miss line-ups all over Europe, from Norway to Greece, from Portugal to Russia.

It is rather like being a sort of vanilla-flavored, non-descript white guy.

I've got to do the deep SNP thing!

[Lost-Sheep]

Stevo,

Why haven't you posted on the R1b Forum? Here is the link:

http://www.familytreedna.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=64

The wife and I just returned home from a wedding in Maryland. Man, oh man, do I love wedding receptions! Beer, wine and hors d'oeuvres...mmmm...

[Stevo]

Stevo,

Why haven't you posted on the R1b Forum? Here is the link:

http://www.familytreedna.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=64

The wife and I just returned home from a wedding in Maryland. Man, oh man, do I love wedding receptions! Beer, wine and hors d'oeuvres...mmmm...

I didn't know it existed (the R1b forum, that is; Maryland is right across the Potomac from me).

Thanks for the info, Lost-Sheep.

I must go to that forum and hang out with all the other pirates who say, "Arrrrrr!"

If you are going to wedding receptions in Maryland, you must live somewhere in my neck of the woods, Lost-Sheep. I'm in Northern Virginia.

[Stevo]

I have already polluted the R1b forum with a couple of ridiculous threads.

Check them out.

[Stevo]

R1?

Back for a moment to the R1b Project listing me as R1. Here is what FTDNA says about R1 on the haplogroup section of my personal page.

R1 The undifferentiated R1 lineage is quite rare. It is found only at very low frequencies in Europe, Central Asia, and South Asia. This lineage possibly originated in Europe and then migrated east into Asia.

I still have no answers as to why the R1b Project and the Steffen Project list me as R1.

As I mentioned, Whit Athey's Y-Haplogroup Predictor gives me a score of 66 as R1b, and FTDNA predicted R1b1.

I am really curious about this.

Am I a throwback to undifferentiated R?

[Lost-Sheep]

I think that I scored in the 80 Percentile Range for R1bism...

That is why I shelled-out th $79.00 for an SNP test. I replied to your R1b Forum thread. I am not certain why FTDNA is so discreet on the existance of the R1b Forum...

[Stevo]

That is why I shelled-out th $79.00 for an SNP test. I replied to your R1b Forum thread. I am not certain why FTDNA is so discreet on the existance of the R1b Forum...

80 seems like a pretty potent score to me.

Do you recall what the distance was between your R1b and R1a scores?

Mine was 48.

I'm wondering if that is an indicator of anything, since M.O'Connor had a difference there of 56.

It's probably meaningless.

[Lost-Sheep]

80 seems like a pretty potent score to me.

80% does not = 100% and I want to be certain. Besides, if I am one of those evil R1b1s who 'dominated Europe and the British Isles', I would like to know my subclade...

[Stevo]

80% does not = 100% and I want to be certain. Besides, if I am one of those evil R1b1s who 'dominated Europe and the British Isles', I would like to know my subclade...

True, but I only scored 66, and some folks are calling me names: R1.

If I am really R1, then I want to know so I can buy a Darth Vader costume and say to all you R1bs and R1as, "I am your faaather!"

[Lost-Sheep]

If I am really R1, then I want to know so I can buy a Darth Vader costume and say to all you R1bs and R1as, "I am your faaather!"

I would rather you be my dad then Jimmy...hehehe! He's too mean like some of those science profs I had to tolerate at Radford!

[Stevo]

I would rather you be my dad then Jim Denning...hehehe! He's too mean!

Hey! I said I wanted to be Darth Vader, not the Sith Emperor!

[M.O'Connor]

"DAD" !!


I managed to load the exel disc and view the R1B Chart.

My 390=10, and my 393=12 help point me to Rib East and R1B E.Eur.

with similarities to R1B-SC.

[Stevo]

Whoa!!! You Are A Scythian!!!

I managed to load the exel disc and view the R1B Chart.

My 390=10, and my 393=12 help point me to Rib East and R1B E.Eur.

with similarities to R1B-SC.

Wow!

That's fantastic!

That explains all those Russian and Central Asian matches.

Your theories about Scythians and Sarmatians are starting to make a whole lot of sense.

Damn, you're pretty good at sizing this stuff up.

I am awestruck.

Maybe you should start looking at those shots of the Takla Makan mummies as family photos!