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  • What does My Origins tell about my genealogy?

    My Origins results came back - it was:
    97% European
    - 46% Southern Europe
    - 39% Western and Central Europe
    - 10% Scandinavian
    - 2% Finland and Northern Siberia

    Then 2% North African and 2% New World.

    As is the case for many Brazilians, a big part of my genealogy remains unknown. My father's line is all German from the Rhineland-Palatinate.
    Through my mother's line it's all Portuguese surnames of people born in Southern Brazil (Santa Catarina, heavily settled by Azoreans), with the exception of one German great-great-grandfather from Rhineland. There are also family stories that one of my great-great-grandmothers was from Poland.

    The S. Europe and C & W Europe seems to match the Portuguese and German. Maybe no sign of Polish ancestry.
    I'm not sure if the 2% New World would be actually Native Brazilian, given the history of the region. I have uploaded to Gedmatch, and there I get 1-2% Amerindian too.
    No idea why the Finland and Northern Siberia did show up either. Does anybody have a guess?

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    Finland and Northern Siberia shows up in about 25% of Latin Americans due to the Native American ancestry.

    If you add up your Amerindian, East Asian, and Siberian from the Eurogenes K13 or Dodecad World 9 calculator at Gedmatch that is all from your Native American ancestry and is the real amount that you have when it is above 2%. myOrigins normally does a poor job for Native American ancestry. Gedmatch is reliable as long as it shows more than 2%. Under 2% is unreliable.

    For a comparison of a 100% Native American at FTDNA and Gedmatch take a look at the following two pages http://www.fi.id.au/2014/11/clovis-a...-in-ftdna.html and http://www.fi.id.au/2014/10/new-clov...-gedmatch.html

    You can run that person's DNA through the Gedmatch calculators with kit F999919.

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    • #3
      Rodolpho, do you think your 2% North African may come from Sephardic Jews? This is often the case. I am able to evaluate your kit to look for Jewish matches on Jewish segments if you want to join GEDmatch.com or if you already have. That is a free site.

      Since you are Brazilian, I want you to know that I would like to find more Brazilian matches to my father and me. We have only 2 or 3 so far -- 2 of them on the same segment as a Mexican and a 3/4 Sephardi 1/4 Ashkenazi Jew.

      Sometimes valid matches between Latin Americans and Ashkenazim are visible in GEDmatch but not in Family Finder because Family Finder requires a minimum total of 20 cM to be shared.

      As far as your "Scandinavian" category, some German ancestry gets classified as that by MyOrigins, but also sometimes some Polish ancestry does.

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      • #4
        Thanks, Armando, that is an interesting thought.

        Well, on Eurogenes K13 I get 1,42% Amerindian, 1,13% Siberian and 0,61% East Asian. I also show 1,15% South Asian. Maybe much of this is just noise. In some other Gedmatch calculators I show no Siberian.

        On Dodecad World9 I am 2,16% Amerindian and very little percentagens for Siberian (0,78%), South Asian (0.58%) and East Asian (0.14%).

        When I use the Admixture by Chromosome I do show some Amerindian percentages of up to 11%.

        Originally posted by Armando View Post
        Finland and Northern Siberia shows up in about 25% of Latin Americans due to the Native American ancestry.

        If you add up your Amerindian, East Asian, and Siberian from the Eurogenes K13 or Dodecad World 9 calculator at Gedmatch that is all from your Native American ancestry and is the real amount that you have when it is above 2%. myOrigins normally does a poor job for Native American ancestry. Gedmatch is reliable as long as it shows more than 2%. Under 2% is unreliable.

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        • #5
          That's a possibility.

          I have uploaded to GEDmatch already. Would you like to exchange kit numbers through private message?

          Originally posted by khazaria View Post
          Rodolpho, do you think your 2% North African may come from Sephardic Jews? This is often the case. I am able to evaluate your kit to look for Jewish matches on Jewish segments if you want to join GEDmatch.com or if you already have. That is a free site.

          Since you are Brazilian, I want you to know that I would like to find more Brazilian matches to my father and me. We have only 2 or 3 so far -- 2 of them on the same segment as a Mexican and a 3/4 Sephardi 1/4 Ashkenazi Jew.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rodolpho View Post
            Thanks, Armando, that is an interesting thought.

            Well, on Eurogenes K13 I get 1,42% Amerindian, 1,13% Siberian and 0,61% East Asian. I also show 1,15% South Asian. Maybe much of this is just noise. In some other Gedmatch calculators I show no Siberian.

            On Dodecad World9 I am 2,16% Amerindian and very little percentagens for Siberian (0,78%), South Asian (0.58%) and East Asian (0.14%).

            When I use the Admixture by Chromosome I do show some Amerindian percentages of up to 11%.
            So on Eurogenes K13 your total for Amerindian, Siberian, and East Asian is 3,16% and on World9 your total is 3,08%. That's from your Native American ancestry and both are very close, relatively speaking, and AncestryDNA and 23andme would show similar amounts. FTDNA under-reports the Native American DNA. Most of your South Asian is from your European ancestors. A lot of your North African is likely from the Moorish invasion of Iberia.

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            • #7
              Cool! So it's more Native American ancestry than My Origins shows. Still, I think this small autossomal amount (2-3%) is probably not evident in anything in my phenotype.

              Originally posted by Armando View Post
              So on Eurogenes K13 your total for Amerindian, Siberian, and East Asian is 3,16% and on World9 your total is 3,08%. That's from your Native American ancestry and both are very close, relatively speaking, and AncestryDNA and 23andme would show similar amounts. FTDNA under-reports the Native American DNA. Most of your South Asian is from your European ancestors. A lot of your North African is likely from the Moorish invasion of Iberia.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rodolpho View Post
                That's a possibility.
                Rodolpho,

                On a triangulating segment on chromosome 4 you match 28 people of whom most are Ashkenazic Jews, but two of the matches are Costa Ricans, and there is an additional Hispanic person whose origin I could not determine yet. The segment is of mixed Middle Eastern + European character. I am sure the most recent common ancestor of the whole group was some kind of Jew.

                I have emailed you details that confirm this.

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