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    I took at subscription with FTDNA after being told by a number of users in a special interest group that FTDNA was "so much better" then what I have with Ancestry.com. My main interest is in tracking down my grandfather's identity using my Y dna as a base. What I am getting from FTDNA is the matches I have been sent are not based upon my Y dna and that even if a low number is attached to the "match" it could indicate we had the same ancestors at some point during the last 1200+ years. I am missing something, I am only interested in a DIRECT Y dna match. Of course there is always the concept in the matches I am being sent to keep FTDNA employees employed, no matter what I thought I was buying...

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    Originally posted by 364581 View Post
    I took at subscription with FTDNA after being told by a number of users in a special interest group that FTDNA was "so much better" then what I have with Ancestry.com. My main interest is in tracking down my grandfather's identity using my Y dna as a base. What I am getting from FTDNA is the matches I have been sent are not based upon my Y dna and that even if a low number is attached to the "match" it could indicate we had the same ancestors at some point during the last 1200+ years. I am missing something, I am only interested in a DIRECT Y dna match. Of course there is always the concept in the matches I am being sent to keep FTDNA employees employed, no matter what I thought I was buying...
    The problem may be that you didn't buy what you thought you were buying.

    From what you wrote about Ancestry.com and FTDNA, it seems that you may have first taken the AncestryDNA autosomal test and were told by others that FTDNA has a better test for you. If you merely uploaded your raw AncestryDNA test results to FTDNA's database, you were only getting in FTDNA's Family Finder autosomal database. In that case, the only matches they can give you are from their Family Finder database, not from their yDNA database, since you haven't tested your yDNA yet.

    If you are interested in testing your yDNA for knocking down the brick wall involving your grandfather, you'll have to order a yDNA test from FTDNA and send them a DNA sample to test. All they have from you now is a file of your results from the autosomal test at Ancestry, which doesn't allow them to test your yDNA.

    Since you already have an FTDNA account, you can log into it and then order a yDNA test. They'll send you a test kit and then you'll have to use it to send back a DNA sample.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by 364581 View Post
      I took at subscription with FTDNA after being told by a number of users in a special interest group that FTDNA was "so much better" then what I have with Ancestry.com. My main interest is in tracking down my grandfather's identity using my Y dna as a base. What I am getting from FTDNA is the matches I have been sent are not based upon my Y dna and that even if a low number is attached to the "match" it could indicate we had the same ancestors at some point during the last 1200+ years. I am missing something, I am only interested in a DIRECT Y dna match. Of course there is always the concept in the matches I am being sent to keep FTDNA employees employed, no matter what I thought I was buying...
      There are no subscriptions with FTDNA.

      Could you please post here about the tests you had purchased?

      When you login to https://www.familytreedna.com/my/default.aspx you would see the sections corresponding to your purchased tests
      • Family Finder
      • mtDNA
      • Y-DNA
      You may have all of them or only one of them.

      W. (Mr.)

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      • #4
        Finally, some replies that make sense

        It is my understanding that the testing I did with FTDNA was for "Y" dna only. There was a mix-up when I placed the order for 37 markers, I was processed for 25 markers only. I complained and I was sent the vials for the 37 markers. The results were hampered by FT not being able to obtain the needed supplies earlier this year. When the results did came I quickly discovered that FT was "matching me" with persons from other haplogroups, which automatically meant we were not related as Ancestry, and I assume FT, determined my haplogroup through my Y dna. I have questioned FT several times in regards of their not converting my Ancestry findings correctly, I DID NOT enter the values into FT's system, one of their employees did. At that point I hit the brick wall, when I follow the instructions I came out with different values that FT shows. In regards to that I'm told something about FT's data needing to "catch up" and to go to some link to verify the listing, etc. Very confusing when compared with what I have received from Ancestry. As far as I know my FTDNA results should be "Y" dna ONLY. But the feedback states I was tested/listed in regards to "autosomal", which is not what I paid for. As for the people who praised FTDNA and told me I was wasting my time with Ancestry, well, when they stopped holding meetings in order to relocate (they met in the main library which is now being remodeled, they "forgot" to inform me that they were now holding meetings at one of the other city libraries. Read into that whatever you wish, I'm too busy trying to trace the people who might have been part of my family. Thanks again.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 364581 View Post
          It is my understanding that the testing I did with FTDNA was for "Y" dna only. There was a mix-up when I placed the order for 37 markers, I was processed for 25 markers only. I complained and I was sent the vials for the 37 markers. The results were hampered by FT not being able to obtain the needed supplies earlier this year. When the results did came I quickly discovered that FT was "matching me" with persons from other haplogroups, which automatically meant we were not related as Ancestry, and I assume FT, determined my haplogroup through my Y dna. I have questioned FT several times in regards of their not converting my Ancestry findings correctly, I DID NOT enter the values into FT's system, one of their employees did. At that point I hit the brick wall, when I follow the instructions I came out with different values that FT shows. In regards to that I'm told something about FT's data needing to "catch up" and to go to some link to verify the listing, etc. Very confusing when compared with what I have received from Ancestry. As far as I know my FTDNA results should be "Y" dna ONLY. But the feedback states I was tested/listed in regards to "autosomal", which is not what I paid for. As for the people who praised FTDNA and told me I was wasting my time with Ancestry, well, when they stopped holding meetings in order to relocate (they met in the main library which is now being remodeled, they "forgot" to inform me that they were now holding meetings at one of the other city libraries. Read into that whatever you wish, I'm too busy trying to trace the people who might have been part of my family. Thanks again.
          From what I bolded in your post above, it certainly sounds like you uploaded your raw data from the AncestryDNA test into FTDNA's Family Finder database. The AncestryDNA test is an autosomal test, just like Family Finder. AncestryDNA stopped doing yDNA testing a few months ago.

          Did you have both yDNA and autosomal DNA testing from Ancestry? That's where the confusion may be. How much did you pay to enter your Ancestry test results into FTDNA's database? If you only paid $39 to upload your results, that probably means you uploaded your Ancestry autosomal results to FTDNA, since that's the price for that sort of upload.

          I found that you started a thread in January - at http://forums.familytreedna.com/showthread.php?t=36682 - about transferring your yDNA results from Relative Genetics to FTDNA. So, it's not clear to me what you've transferred from Ancestry. It sounds like you're transferred yDNA results from Relative Genetics testing AND Ancestry autosomal test results.

          If both were transferred into FTDNA's database, then, when you log into your FTDNA account, you should see sections for Family Finder results, including a match page, and yDNA results, including a match page, which dna described in post 3 in this thread. What do you see when you log into your account?

          We can't help you understand your results if we don't know exactly what tests FTDNA is using for your matching.
          Last edited by MMaddi; 26 June 2015, 12:43 PM.

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          • #6
            @364581

            Do you want Family Finder to show only matches who are also the same Y haplogroup as you?

            Mr. W.

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