Haplogroup N, HVR1 16292T, 16519C?

[vraatyah]

My MtDNA tests came back Haplogroup N*...but they first had me in I.
HVR1 - 223T and 519C
HVR2 - 73G, 143A, 189G, 192C, 194T, 195C, 196C, 204C, 207A, 163G, 315.1C
I can't seem to find any information on N*. Some of the experts on the Roots DNA board thought I should be a W...so I don't know what I really am. I would appreciate any sites that might explain this better. I have 2 exact matches on the MtDNA data base. One is a N* and the other is a W????? Can this be right?

that's a typical W - at least, in all labs but FT. 143-192-194-196 defines a subclade which has no corresponding hvs1 motif. These matches with back transition at 292 are the closest ones:

Piercy R. et al.
The application of mitochondrial DNA typing to the study of white Caucasian genetic identification, 1993
Wales
223
73-143-189-192-194-195-196-204-207-263-315.1C
(16001-16397; 29-400)


Delghandi et al.
1998
Saami
223
73-143-189-192-194-195-196-263
(16024-16362; 62-363)

More likely, they overlooked 204-207 in the Saami sample.

and one complete sequence by Moilanen:

AY339460
73-143-189-192-194-195-196-204-207-263-315.1C-709-750-1243-1438-2706-3107d-3505-3531-4769-5046-5460-7028-7864-8251-8860-8994-11674-11719-11947-12705-14766-15326-15884C-16223-16519

[shekron]

Thanks for your response vraatyah. You have confirmed what the roots DNA people have told me...so I guess I am really a W! What will it take for FTDNA to change it to the correct haplogroup? Do I need further testing?
Thanks again, Sheryl Kronebusch

[vraatyah]

Do I need further testing?

Sheryl, if they are going to check your sample with rflps and this is for free - I think it is not out of place.

[dajones]

Hvr1 16519c

I only have 16519C at HVR1, but I am Haplogroup H. My differences at HVR2 are 263G, 309.1C and 315.1C. I also wondered about the Marie Antoinette connection since as I recall her differences from CRS are 16519C, 152C, 194T, 263G and 315.1C and she was haplogroup H also. Of course when I check my results with FTDNA I also match HVR1 with about 1500 or so people and HVR1 & 2 with about 80 folks. So does the fact that I match haplogroup H and 16519C, 263G and 315.1C with Marie Antoinette mean I am related to her? Any thoughts out there?!

[vraatyah]

So does the fact that I match haplogroup H and 16519C, 263G and 315.1C with Marie Antoinette mean I am related to her? Any thoughts out there?!

too distantly