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    Hello Everyone!

    So I have recently gotten into Ancestry and even more recently DNA testing. I just want to know everyone's opinions on what tests they think are best and just point me in directions for anything else. Kind of young(24) but want to get into this before even more family passes away and we hit even more brick walls.

    My story-- So my brother did a project in like 3rd grade, so years ago, about the family tree. Well my mom and I have recently gotten back into trying to find and trace the family. We are brick walled at great-great granparents for most of the way back, I have heard from my other family that is tracing that it is weird to have it stopped so quick. While we are fine with most of the brick walls, many probably need to be discovered by going to another country and tracing it there, my grandmothers side(mom's mom) seems to be giving us a lot of problems. We do not and can not find a lot of information my grandmothers grandparents. When we look him up some documents say Abram and some Abraham. We recently found his death certificate and it says Abraham and on his headstone Abram. It does not list his father and only his mother. I am sure I have to go somewhere else to look for her to.

    So my question, will the Family Finder one work for me? I ordered it. Do you all think it will help me get over my road block with my g-g-grandfather? We know, so far, that he came from England. Have looked on Ancestry for months but can not find any more information. He only had one daughter and shes passed. Is that a dead end now for me? I think the Family Finder will also be helpful because we are only sure of 2 ethnicity's and would love to know what else there could be.

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    Originally posted by KellieG18 View Post
    When we look him up some documents say Abram and some Abraham. We recently found his death certificate and it says Abraham and on his headstone Abram.
    That's normal. Names could be very fluid in history and it's not unusual to see diminutives of names used interchangeably.

    So my question, will the Family Finder one work for me? I ordered it. Do you all think it will help me get over my road block with my g-g-grandfather? We know, so far, that he came from England. Have looked on Ancestry for months but can not find any more information. He only had one daughter and shes passed. Is that a dead end now for me? I think the Family Finder will also be helpful because we are only sure of 2 ethnicity's and would love to know what else there could be.
    I'm not sure DNA testing is the answer to your problems. What you're describing is a pretty common genealogy problem. It sounds like you have mostly been researching on Ancestry.com, which is a valuable source, but you probably need to use other sources, not necessary ones online. You don't necessarily have to go to the location to research it, many organizations will mail you copies of the records you are looking for. You say he was from England so have you ordered records from GRO? Have you checked the UK Online Parish Clerks?

    DNA is not going to tell you anymore about your tree than what your DNA matches have in their own tree.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by KellieG18 View Post
      When we look him up some documents say Abram and some Abraham. We recently found his death certificate and it says Abraham and on his headstone Abram. It does not list his father and only his mother. I am sure I have to go somewhere else to look for her to.
      Is this a Jewish family? If so, does the headstone have any Hebrew writing on it? The Hebrew should include his father's name.

      Elise

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      • #4
        Family Finder would be the best bet for looking into all your lines.

        One word of advice though, it is better for your grandparents to do the FF finder test as children only receive half the parent DNA.

        If Grandparent unavailable to test then test your parent and/or parents siblings. (Each child receives a random 50% of each parent)

        If none of above available then test yourself and/or your siblings.

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        • #5
          You may want to view the Introduction to Genealogy Research webinar that I gave a while back, to help you learn more about what types of genealogy resources and records are available. The webinar focuses on U.S. records, but even if you are researching family from another country, many of the concepts and types of records are similar.

          A link to the archived recording is available on the Webinars page in the Learning Center -- see the link in my signature below.

          Of course, recordings of our many DNA webinars are available there as well.

          Elise
          Last edited by efgen; 17 September 2014, 06:12 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by efgen View Post
            Is this a Jewish family? If so, does the headstone have any Hebrew writing on it? The Hebrew should include his father's name.

            Elise
            We think he was Jewish and is buried in a Jewish Cemetery but all his Headstone has is Abram L. Goodwin and 1891-1941.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Germanica View Post
              That's normal. Names could be very fluid in history and it's not unusual to see diminutives of names used interchangeably.



              I'm not sure DNA testing is the answer to your problems. What you're describing is a pretty common genealogy problem. It sounds like you have mostly been researching on Ancestry.com, which is a valuable source, but you probably need to use other sources, not necessary ones online. You don't necessarily have to go to the location to research it, many organizations will mail you copies of the records you are looking for. You say he was from England so have you ordered records from GRO? Have you checked the UK Online Parish Clerks?

              DNA is not going to tell you anymore about your tree than what your DNA matches have in their own tree.
              I haven't yet but thank you for the new help! I was looking online or trying to for Parish records but all it says is Leeds and not Kent or Yorkshire and I keep getting stuck at that point now.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by KellieG18 View Post
                We think he was Jewish and is buried in a Jewish Cemetery but all his Headstone has is Abram L. Goodwin and 1891-1941.
                Hmm, how about his marriage record? That should, theoretically, list both of his parents.

                Also, do you have his immigration and naturalization records yet?

                Elise

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                • #9
                  Nope! We have not been able to find anything

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                  • #10
                    Another quick question, if you don't mind. Would it be better for me to test my grandma rather than myself? Or better to buy more test and get my last set of grandparents tested so I can see what their results say?

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                    • #11
                      If you have the opportunity to do so then test your grandparents while you can, otherwise you may later regret missing the chance. I think many of here wish we had parents or grandparents to test.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LynCra View Post
                        If you have the opportunity to do so then test your grandparents while you can, otherwise you may later regret missing the chance. I think many of here wish we had parents or grandparents to test.
                        I just might! ... now is it 99 for them also? so a little over 200 for more test? or since I have just bought one is it a little less to buy more test?

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                        • #13
                          No volume discount, but if you have joined a project with your first kit you can check with the project admin whether they can offer any discount.

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                          • #14
                            FTDNA doesn't offer project discounts for Family Finder -- just Y-DNA

                            There may be some cases where a project admin will offer to subsidize a test using the project's general fund, but this would probably only happen in rare cases where Family Finder is being done to support the specific goals of that project.

                            Elise

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                            • #15
                              Definitely test the oldest living generation you have available for Family Finder. I've done both my grandmothers (age 89 and 90). I also tested a first cousin to one of my grandmothers - on paper she's the same generation as my grandmother but she's the same age as my parents. She descends from my great-great-grandmother's 2nd marriage. Unfortunately both my grandfathers died years ago (1988 and 1996) so no way to test them now. They would have been very interested in this new tool.

                              The older the person who takes the test the further back you can get match wise. I'm going through the matches of the three testers whose results have come in so far and one has a potential matching surname but that name goes back to about 1700-1720 in Austria. Sometimes you have to go that far back to find a match but that's the benefit of testing the oldest living generation - you're more likely to find that link through them than a tester in a younger generation.

                              Once my results come in and my parents test (mom's test is in the mail) it will be interesting to see if any of us share matches with my grandmothers.

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