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  • Ancient DNA Links Native Americans With Europe

    http://www.sciencemag.org/content/342/6157/409.full

  • #2
    Another garbage story trying to some how fit Native Americans with the rest of the world.

    When Are they going to wake up and realise Native Americans are there own race of people period.


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    • #3
      gatty: Thanks for your post. To add to it is a commentary from Roberta Estes, and an 8 minute podcast on same:

      http://wp.me/p2AwO4-OI

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      • #4
        Not all Native Americans at first contact looked the same, as per historical accounts. Think of the light-skinned Mandans. Then there was an account of a frew Indians with blue eyes along the northwest Pacific coast in British Columbia.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by PDHOTLEN View Post
          Not all Native Americans at first contact looked the same, as per historical accounts. Think of the light-skinned Mandans. Then there was an account of a frew Indians with blue eyes along the northwest Pacific coast in British Columbia.
          When Lewis and Clark encountered the Mandans around 1804, they had already had plenty of opportunity to mix with the French fur traders who had been in this area since the 1730s:

          http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...onrivermap.png

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          • #6
            Thank you for posting the link. The article was very interesting. I had heard about the possible European connection before, on a Discovery or History channel show I believe.

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            • #7
              This is no surprise since haplogroups R and Q are brothers. Also there are some Q1b (a brother of Q1a) in western Europe.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                This is no surprise since haplogroups R and Q are brothers. Also there are some Q1b (a brother of Q1a) in western Europe.
                Yes, they both come from Y DNA-P. There are also plenty of various subclades of Q1a throughout Europe. Q1b is found throughout Europe, not just Western Europe. Here is Eupedia's updated Q page, that I find to be informative. http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtml

                @gatty thanks for posting the link. It is very interesting. I think there is much that we don't understand. Really I find it amazing how we can even begin to understand what was happening on our planet that far back!
                Last edited by Táltos; 26 October 2013, 12:06 PM.

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                • #9
                  Amerindin research

                  Here is some interesting Amerindian research..http://genetiker.wordpress.com/2013/...-and-mestizos/

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                  • #10
                    I think this is a very interesting article. It will be great to read the actual paper and followup work. There are some other articles in the last month in science related to the pre-history of Eurasia and one of them links to Native American Origins, I believe. I am going to start a thread elsewhere on this.

                    The abstract of one of the articles is here:

                    http://www.sciencemag.org/content/342/6155/257

                    You would need to look at the entire article for the diagrams that really tell the story.

                    It links many early cultures with MtDNA types. The Neolithic Hunter Gatherer cultures of North East Europe and Siberia correlate with U5a, U4 and U2. The MtDNA of the boy discussed in the Native American origins article was U, and I hope to see the specifics in the article when it comes out.

                    This is personally interesting since the MtDNA of an ancestor family tradition said was Native American was U5a1.

                    I think this will illuminate/shift/confuse the use of DNA to indicate Native American ancestry.

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                    • #11
                      North American Indian admixture analysis

                      Another recent analysis, see here...http://genetiker.wordpress.com/2013/...rican-indians/

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