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  • #46
    Originally posted by N21163 View Post
    Are you now attempting to state that these two samples are direct descendants of the Gravettians, without any outside influence, and the WHG component is indicative of Cro-Magnons and Gravettians?

    Based on what exactly?



    Please provide a reference (try a full reference too and not just an abstract )
    Who do you think that the two ancient samples are descended from? Martians

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    • #47
      Originally posted by 1798 View Post
      The ANE calculator is accurate then.
      Not really, that's why he made K8

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      • #48
        Originally posted by 1798 View Post
        Who do you think that the two ancient samples are descended from? Martians
        Failed to find the reference then ? : ))))

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Subwoofer View Post
          Not really, that's why he made K8
          I see, the K7 did not fit with the Yamnaya myth.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Subwoofer View Post
            Failed to find the reference then ? : ))))
            Alright then, take your time, you tell me who Lochsbour,Motala and La Brana are descended from?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by 1798 View Post
              Alright then, take your time, you tell me who Lochsbour,Motala and La Brana are descended from?
              How about you show they inherited WHG from the Kent Cavern man. Indeed can you even demonstrate WHG is over 40,000 years old ?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Subwoofer View Post
                How about you show they inherited WHG from the Kent Cavern man. Indeed can you even demonstrate WHG is over 40,000 years old ?
                It is about time that some ancient remains were dna tested in the Isles and France and then we will see how they are related to modern western Europeans.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                  The ANE calculator is accurate then.
                  Cyclic argument. Does not help your original statement. You line of argument is dismissed as nonsense.

                  Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                  Who do you think that the two ancient samples are descended from? Martians
                  Strawman argument. Dismissed as nonsense

                  Originally posted by Subwoofer View Post
                  Failed to find the reference then ? : ))))
                  Undoubtedly

                  Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                  Alright then, take your time, you tell me who Lochsbour,Motala and La Brana are descended from?
                  The burden of proof is with you.

                  You have been asked to provide research to support your statements and you continue to go around in circles.

                  Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                  It is about time that some ancient remains were dna tested in the Isles and France and then we will see how they are related to modern western Europeans.
                  ...and now you have brought the thread to the point I highlighted in one of my earlier posts.

                  http://forums.familytreedna.com/show...0&postcount=12

                  You have not advanced this discussion beyond your initial statement. You have not provided reference to research to support your original statement. You continue to go around in circles and your argument is going nowhere.

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                  • #54
                    Said it before and I'll say it again, this forum could really do with a 'thank you for your useful post' or 'I like your post' button. Actually I think both as options would be nice : )

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Subwoofer View Post
                      Said it before and I'll say it again, this forum could really do with a 'thank you for your useful post' or 'I like your post' button. Actually I think both as options would be nice : )

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by N21163 View Post
                        Cyclic argument. Does not help your original statement. You line of argument is dismissed as nonsense.



                        Strawman argument. Dismissed as nonsense



                        Undoubtedly



                        The burden of proof is with you.

                        You have been asked to provide research to support your statements and you continue to go around in circles.



                        ...and now you have brought the thread to the point I highlighted in one of my earlier posts.

                        http://forums.familytreedna.com/show...0&postcount=12

                        You have not advanced this discussion beyond your initial statement. You have not provided reference to research to support your original statement. You continue to go around in circles and your argument is going nowhere.
                        WHG is Western European Hunter Gatherer dna and it originated in western Europe. What part of that do you not understand?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                          WHG is Western European Hunter Gatherer dna and it originated in western Europe. What part of that do you not understand?
                          You are the only one here who does not understand what logical fallacies are and what a cyclic argument is.

                          You have contributed nothing to support you original statement, as I have outlined at length in this thread.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                            WHG is Western European Hunter Gatherer dna
                            I think everybody here understands this

                            Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                            and it originated in western Europe.
                            More than likely but not necessarily.

                            However

                            Originally posted by Subwoofer View Post
                            How about you show they inherited WHG from the Kent Cavern man. Indeed can you even demonstrate WHG is over 40,000 years old ?
                            Second point is particularly relevant since I don’t think WHG is likely to be anywhere nearly 40,000 years old, in which case your conjecture is mute.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Subwoofer View Post
                              I think everybody here understands this



                              More than likely but not necessarily.

                              However



                              Second point is particularly relevant since I don’t think WHG is likely to be anywhere nearly 40,000 years old, in which case your conjecture is mute.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Subwoofer View Post
                                How about you show they inherited WHG from the Kent Cavern man. Indeed can you even demonstrate WHG is over 40,000 years old ?
                                I did not state that I inherited WHG from the Kent Cavern man. The earliest humans in western Europe were known as the Cro Magnon. After them the farmers 30,000 years later. So they had 30,000 years to diverge into whats known as WHG. WHG did not come from the Yamnaya.

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