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  • 1798
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    Motala 12 7,500 ybp
    # Population Percent
    1 Indo_European 95.46
    2 Amerindian 4.54

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Utahn_Whites @ 2.588857
    2 Lithuanian @ 10.980042
    3 North_European @ 12.862579
    4 Belarussian @ 14.177192
    5 Hungarian @ 18.374643
    6 Northeast_European @ 20.326088
    7 French @ 20.594271
    8 Basque @ 20.633636
    9 Russian @ 22.007721
    10 Tuscan @ 30.023466
    11 South_European @ 33.937862
    12 Sardinian @ 36.551491
    13 Georgian @ 45.229275
    14 Caucasian @ 46.786278
    15 Turkish @ 47.916416
    16 Iranian @ 54.520828
    17 Balochi @ 59.473267
    18 North_Indian @ 60.162472
    19 Palestinian @ 62.954056
    20 Punjabi @ 64.119919

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Utahn_Whites +50% Utahn_Whites @ 2.588857


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Utahn_Whites +25% Utahn_Whites +25% Utahn_Whites @ 2.588857


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Lithuanian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 3.768630
    2 North_European + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 4.313569
    3 Belarussian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 4.514183
    4 Northeast_European + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 5.463090
    5 Hungarian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 5.553356
    6 Russian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 5.808041
    7 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 5.971954
    8 French + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 6.061203
    9 Basque + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 6.259562
    10 Lithuanian + North_European + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 6.369928
    11 Belarussian + Lithuanian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 6.718479
    12 North_European + North_European + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 7.005288
    13 Belarussian + North_European + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 7.241044
    14 Belarussian + Belarussian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 7.570876
    15 Hungarian + Lithuanian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 7.615905
    16 Lithuanian + Northeast_European + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 7.928711
    17 Basque + Lithuanian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 8.222757
    18 French + Lithuanian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 8.225182
    19 Lithuanian + Russian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 8.266680
    20 Hungarian + North_European + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 8.329771

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  • 1798
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    The K15 and dodecad V3 are the best for me. We need someone to create a west European calculator.

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  • N21163
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    These admixture calculators are fun, I am reluctant to take them seriously at this stage (might get close one day)...but Belarus is not even close....

    Anyway, puntDNAL K10+Eurasia generates the following results for my kit:

    # Population Percent
    1 Indo_European 84.93
    2 Western_Semitic 6.73
    3 Dravidian 3.51
    4 Sino_Tibetan 2.93
    5 Amerindian 1.34

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Belarussian @ 0.775307
    2 North_European @ 3.072026
    3 Lithuanian @ 4.423440
    4 Hungarian @ 6.649364
    5 French @ 8.212326
    6 Northeast_European @ 8.451662
    7 Basque @ 9.259535
    8 Russian @ 10.447889
    9 Utahn_Whites @ 13.134509
    10 Tuscan @ 17.695396
    11 South_European @ 21.698174
    12 Sardinian @ 24.341125
    13 Georgian @ 32.161476
    14 Caucasian @ 33.589520
    15 Turkish @ 34.736897
    16 Iranian @ 41.412739
    17 Balochi @ 46.904778
    18 North_Indian @ 48.457348
    19 Palestinian @ 50.215759
    20 North_Moroccan @ 52.024971

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Belarussian +50% Belarussian @ 0.775307


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Belarussian +25% Belarussian +25% Belarussian @ 0.775307


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Belarussian + Belarussian + Belarussian + Belarussian @ 0.775307
    2 Belarussian + Belarussian + Belarussian + North_European @ 0.818869
    3 Belarussian + Belarussian + Hungarian + Lithuanian @ 1.141442
    4 Belarussian + Belarussian + Belarussian + Lithuanian @ 1.149304
    5 Basque + Lithuanian + Russian + Utahn_Whites @ 1.221832
    6 Belarussian + French + Northeast_European + Utahn_Whites @ 1.241203
    7 Basque + Belarussian + Russian + Utahn_Whites @ 1.243030
    8 Belarussian + Belarussian + Lithuanian + North_European @ 1.250248
    9 Belarussian + French + Russian + Utahn_Whites @ 1.301571
    10 Belarussian + Hungarian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 1.357281
    11 Basque + Belarussian + Northeast_European + Utahn_Whites @ 1.373204
    12 Lithuanian + North_European + North_European + Northeast_European @ 1.412326
    13 Belarussian + Hungarian + Northeast_European + Utahn_Whites @ 1.413840
    14 Belarussian + Hungarian + Russian + Utahn_Whites @ 1.445803
    15 Belarussian + Belarussian + North_European + North_European @ 1.446556
    16 French + Lithuanian + Russian + Utahn_Whites @ 1.481946
    17 Lithuanian + North_European + North_European + Russian @ 1.482886
    18 French + North_European + Russian + Utahn_Whites @ 1.511335
    19 Basque + Lithuanian + Northeast_European + Utahn_Whites @ 1.629339
    20 Belarussian + Lithuanian + North_European + Northeast_European @ 1.650013

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  • hazel_ion
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    puntDNAL K10+Eurasian Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Indo_European 84.47
    2 Western_Semitic 8.82
    3 Dravidian 3.72
    4 Amerindian 2.42


    Finished reading population data. 73 populations found.
    10 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_European @ 2.814487
    2 Belarussian @ 3.685622
    3 Hungarian @ 5.381840
    4 Lithuanian @ 5.874786
    5 French @ 6.242451
    6 Basque @ 7.357381
    7 Northeast_European @ 9.683413
    8 Russian @ 11.999551
    9 Utahn_Whites @ 14.170027
    10 Tuscan @ 15.809031
    11 South_European @ 19.841009
    12 Sardinian @ 22.460316
    13 Georgian @ 30.530596
    14 Caucasian @ 32.146847
    15 Turkish @ 33.598507
    16 Iranian @ 40.006863
    17 Balochi @ 46.105122
    18 North_Indian @ 48.222752
    19 Palestinian @ 48.495682
    20 North_Moroccan @ 50.343334

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% French +50% Lithuanian @ 1.725254


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Lithuanian +25% Sardinian +25% Utahn_Whites @ 1.629258


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Iranian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 1.116567
    2 Georgian + North_European + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 1.171378
    3 Georgian + Lithuanian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 1.201264
    4 Caucasian + Lithuanian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 1.317869
    5 Belarussian + Georgian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 1.365932
    6 Caucasian + North_European + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 1.583418
    7 Basque + French + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 1.593249
    8 French + Lithuanian + North_European + North_European @ 1.619208
    9 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Utahn_Whites @ 1.629258
    10 French + Hungarian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 1.677942
    11 French + French + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 1.725254
    12 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + North_European + Tuscan @ 1.740643
    13 Basque + Hungarian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 1.772530
    14 Belarussian + Caucasian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 1.859944
    15 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + South_European + Utahn_Whites @ 1.884604
    16 French + French + Lithuanian + North_European @ 1.891577
    17 Belarussian + French + Lithuanian + North_European @ 1.901893
    18 French + Lithuanian + Tuscan + Utahn_Whites @ 1.921735
    19 Basque + Basque + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 1.922024
    20 French + Hungarian + Lithuanian + North_European @ 1.932509

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  • MMaddi
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    So I tried this calculator to see what it gives me.

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Indo_European 66.40
    2 Western_Semitic 25.46
    3 Dravidian 4.90
    4 Nilo_Saharan 1.61
    5 Amerindian 1.05


    Finished reading population data. 73 populations found.
    10 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Sardinian @ 5.179973
    2 South_European @ 6.710464
    3 Georgian @ 8.559165
    4 Caucasian @ 9.806931
    5 Tuscan @ 9.845584
    6 Turkish @ 12.241156
    7 Iranian @ 18.151169
    8 French @ 18.778086
    9 Basque @ 19.197386
    10 Hungarian @ 21.179174
    11 Northeast_European @ 23.709425
    12 Russian @ 24.082066
    13 Palestinian @ 24.094612
    14 Belarussian @ 26.180470
    15 North_Moroccan @ 26.400095
    16 North_European @ 26.510344
    17 Tunisian @ 28.167694
    18 Lithuanian @ 29.960966
    19 Balochi @ 30.748907
    20 Mozabite @ 33.118149

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Georgian +50% South_European @ 2.653572


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Palestinian +25% Tuscan +25% Utahn_Whites @ 2.075490


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Georgian + Saudi + South_European + Utahn_Whites @ 1.500836
    2 Georgian + Saudi + Sardinian + Utahn_Whites @ 1.610865
    3 Georgian + Saudi + Tuscan + Utahn_Whites @ 1.724825
    4 Basque + Georgian + North_European + Saudi @ 1.786317
    5 Basque + Georgian + Palestinian + Tuscan @ 1.973965
    6 Caucasian + Saudi + Tuscan + Utahn_Whites @ 2.063080
    7 Georgian + North_European + Palestinian + Sardinian @ 2.063133
    8 Palestinian + Palestinian + Tuscan + Utahn_Whites @ 2.075490
    9 Caucasian + Saudi + South_European + Utahn_Whites @ 2.104484
    10 Georgian + Hungarian + Palestinian + Tuscan @ 2.153438
    11 Georgian + French + North_European + Saudi @ 2.200047
    12 Basque + Georgian + Hungarian + Saudi @ 2.209640
    13 Basque + Georgian + North_Moroccan + Tuscan @ 2.225808
    14 Georgian + Egyptian + Tuscan + Utahn_Whites @ 2.226867
    15 Lithuanian + Saudi + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 2.254656
    16 French + Saudi + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 2.267147
    17 Basque + Basque + Georgian + Saudi @ 2.271693
    18 Basque + Caucasian + North_European + Saudi @ 2.277433
    19 Georgian + Hungarian + Palestinian + South_European @ 2.293898
    20 Lithuanian + Saudi + Sardinian + South_European @ 2.294832


    Well, it at least got my general ancestry right at the one population estimate, although with not very good resolution. Sardinian is first, with 5.179973, and South European, with 6.710464, is second. Both numbers indicate a not very good probability though.

    For the 4 population estimates, the results are not very satisfying or realistic, given my known ancestry: the first given is Georgian + Saudi + South_European + Utahn_Whites @ 1.500836. Unless this is talking about very deep ancestry, it's not even close to being a very plausible result for me.

    I just noticed that gedmatch includes this note for the calculator, perhaps written by the developer: "Results are only meaningful for persons who have mostly African ancestry with some Eurasian admixture." Basically, this is not meant to be used for those with no African ancestry. So any results it gives to those with European and little or no African ancestry will be unreliable and probably not accurate, as in my case.
    Last edited by MMaddi; 24 May 2015, 01:32 PM.

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  • MMaddi
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    I am truly perplexed by this thread and who the original poster is.

    The original poster, 1798, is vehemently opposed to the idea that there's any correlation between DNA and languages. That's not such a controversial proposition and there have been several important population genetics studies recently published which report on such correlations. Or course, 1798 is very upset by these studies, especially one that makes a good case for a link between R1b and the origin of Indo-European languages.

    Yet he's started a thread about a new gedmatch admixture calculator which does exactly what he denies - analyzes DNA results and then gives a percentage for the language groups that correlate with the results!

    I wonder what his motivation for starting this thread is. Has he changed his mind and now believes that there is something to the correlation of DNA and language groups? Or is he just mindlessly trying all the calculators with no regard to how they actually relate to his or others' ancestry?

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  • gatty
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    Population
    Khoesan -
    Indo_European 85.38%
    Amerindian 1.85%
    Sino_Tibetan 0.06%
    Omotic 0.22%
    Nilo_Saharan 0.15%
    Ubangian_Congo -
    Niger_Congo -
    Western_Semitic 9.82%
    Dravidian 2.51%

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_European @ 2.309178
    2 Belarussian @ 4.428931
    3 Hungarian @ 4.815826
    4 French @ 6.288888
    5 Basque @ 6.479852
    6 Lithuanian @ 6.712799
    7 Northeast_European @ 11.001744
    8 Russian @ 13.209719
    9 Utahn_Whites @ 13.740136
    10 Tuscan @ 15.583974
    11 South_European @ 19.615479
    12 Sardinian @ 22.235109
    13 Georgian @ 30.961220
    14 Caucasian @ 32.552341
    15 Turkish @ 34.045807
    16 Iranian @ 40.612339
    17 Balochi @ 47.263081
    18 Palestinian @ 48.681644
    19 North_Indian @ 49.622879
    20 North_Moroccan @ 50.437286

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Basque +50% Lithuanian @ 1.713155


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% North_European +25% Tuscan +25% Utahn_Whites @ 1.096760


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Lithuanian + North_European + Sardinian + Utahn_Whites @ 1.061220
    2 Lithuanian + North_European + South_European + Utahn_Whites @ 1.092787
    3 North_European + North_European + Tuscan + Utahn_Whites @ 1.096760
    4 Hungarian + Lithuanian + Tuscan + Utahn_Whites @ 1.162771
    5 Georgian + North_European + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 1.198041
    6 Basque + Lithuanian + Tuscan + Utahn_Whites @ 1.208812
    7 French + Lithuanian + Tuscan + Utahn_Whites @ 1.292714
    8 Basque + North_European + North_European + North_European @ 1.306140
    9 French + French + North_European + Utahn_Whites @ 1.316001
    10 Belarussian + North_European + Tuscan + Utahn_Whites @ 1.353414
    11 Basque + French + North_European + Utahn_Whites @ 1.402329
    12 North_European + North_European + South_European + Utahn_Whites @ 1.478937
    13 French + French + Hungarian + Utahn_Whites @ 1.481556
    14 French + South_European + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 1.501491
    15 French + North_European + North_European + North_European @ 1.504902
    16 Basque + Belarussian + French + Utahn_Whites @ 1.516343
    17 Basque + Lithuanian + North_European + North_European @ 1.520202
    18 French + Sardinian + Utahn_Whites + Utahn_Whites @ 1.529938
    19 Basque + French + French + Utahn_Whites @ 1.551028
    20 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Utahn_Whites @ 1.555110

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  • Karim
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    New and interesting calculotor
    my result:

    Population
    Khoesan 0.58%
    Indo_European 14.83%
    Amerindian 0.05%
    Sino_Tibetan -
    Omotic 7.52%
    Nilo_Saharan 13.78%
    Ubangian_Congo 0.41%
    Niger_Congo 36.19%
    Western_Semitic 26.60%
    Dravidian -

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  • 1798
    started a topic puntDNAL K10+Eurasia 4-Ancestors Oracle

    puntDNAL K10+Eurasia 4-Ancestors Oracle

    My results.
    # Population Percent
    1 Indo_European 84.34
    2 Western_Semitic 9.27
    3 Amerindian 2.71
    4 Dravidian 2.11
    5 Omotic 1.57
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 French + French + French + Utahn_Whites @ 1.768504
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