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  • Ireland Before St. Patrick - Natl Geo

    http://voices.nationalgeographic.com...nt&sf8037268=1

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    "In other words, today’s Irish people are largely descended directly from the Neolithic populations of the island. And some can trace their genes back even to the Irish Mesolithic. If you have a bit of Irish in your blood, you likely have ancestors who were building those massive stone tombs, clearing the forests, and who eventually may have listened to the voice of St. Patrick."

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    • #3
      In that same article the author writes;
      Ireland would have had the European bear, wolf, fox, hare, etc.,” he continues. “And it appears that the Mesolithic communities may have brought wild boar with them from Britain or Europe by boat; that is, they were part of a ‘transported landscape’.”

      These animals arrived in Ireland by land bridge and the same goes for the Mesolithic people.I don't believe that the Mesolithic people brought wild boar in boats.

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      • #4
        Very interesting stuff! I was born and raised in Ireland myself, but I've traced Anglo-Saxon roots on my paternal side. Not sure about maternal, everything comes up Irish so I'm sure somebody in my family was chillin' with Paddy.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by schnook View Post
          Very interesting stuff! I was born and raised in Ireland myself, but I've traced Anglo-Saxon roots on my paternal side. Not sure about maternal, everything comes up Irish so I'm sure somebody in my family was chillin' with Paddy.
          @schnook

          Are you not the poster with the rare Y haplotype?

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          • #6
            DNA study shows Celts are not a unique genetic group

            http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-31905764

            "According to the data, those of Celtic ancestry in Scotland and Cornwall are more similar to the English than they are to other Celtic groups.

            The study also describes distinct genetic differences across the UK, which reflect regional identities.

            And it shows that the invading Anglo Saxons did not wipe out the Britons of 1,500 years ago, but mixed with them."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 1798 View Post
              @schnook

              Are you not the poster with the rare Y haplotype?

              Haha yes that's me. Well, technically my father but I manage the kit. Why?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by schnook View Post
                Haha yes that's me. Well, technically my father but I manage the kit. Why?
                "The Wellcome Trust-funded study, which is part of the People of the British Isles Research Project, also found that people in the north of England are genetically more similar to people in Scotland than they are to those in the south of England."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                  "The Wellcome Trust-funded study, which is part of the People of the British Isles Research Project, also found that people in the north of England are genetically more similar to people in Scotland than they are to those in the south of England."
                  It make sense considering how close the north of England is to Scotland.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by schnook View Post
                    It make sense considering how close the north of England is to Scotland.
                    I hope that the Irish project does not take as long as the POBI project.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                      I hope that the Irish project does not take as long as the POBI project.
                      Hopefully. In my opinion I think we should be part of the POBI project, we're not British but it IS called People of the British ISLES. Especially since so much Irish immigration has occurred, surely some of our genetic makeup is present in UK populations too?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by schnook View Post
                        Hopefully. In my opinion I think we should be part of the POBI project, we're not British but it IS called People of the British ISLES. Especially since so much Irish immigration has occurred, surely some of our genetic makeup is present in UK populations too?
                        I just wonder if they tested another 6000 people would the results be the same.


                        Why are they not testing more ancient remains in the Isles?!!! Do they not want to know about the past? They are way behind the rest of the world.
                        Last edited by 1798; 19 March 2015, 11:09 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                          I just wonder if they tested another 6000 people would the results be the same.


                          Why are they not testing more ancient remains in the Isles?!!! Do they not want to know about the past? They are way behind the rest of the world.
                          They must just care about the unique genetics that make up today's British people, ignoring the past and ignoring the genetics of other people on the British Isles.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                            http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-31905764

                            "According to the data, those of Celtic ancestry in Scotland and Cornwall are more similar to the English than they are to other Celtic groups.

                            The study also describes distinct genetic differences across the UK, which reflect regional identities.

                            And it shows that the invading Anglo Saxons did not wipe out the Britons of 1,500 years ago, but mixed with them."
                            I think that this is proof that the Celts belonged to multiple haplogroups.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                              I think that this is proof that the Celts belonged to multiple haplogroups.
                              Different Celtic groups will have different Y-chromosome and mtDNA haplogroups and subclades within them.

                              However, this study is not proof of that as it focuses on autosomal DNA

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