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  • SoutherngalKiwi
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    Eurogenes K13

    Population
    North_Atlantic 52.36
    Baltic 20.90
    West_Med 10.55
    West_Asian 7.02
    East_Med 0.13
    Red_Sea 1.20
    South_Asian 3.52
    East_Asian 2.25
    Siberian 0.98
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.58
    Northeast_African-
    Sub-Saharan 0.49

    Eurogenes K15

    Population
    North_Sea 32.89
    Atlantic 34.21
    Baltic 10.23
    Eastern_Euro 5.00
    West_Med 4.51
    West_Asian 5.65
    East_Med -
    Red_Sea 0.92
    South_Asian 3.00
    Southeast_Asian 2.07
    Siberian 0.82
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.46
    Northeast_African-
    Sub-Saharan 0.25

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  • 1798
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    Here is a link to the K15 calculator info and area maps.


    http://bga101.blogspot.com.au/2013/1...-gedmatch.html

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  • 1798
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    Rise98 U106 gedmatch F999941
    1 North_Sea 39.93
    2 Atlantic 18.64
    3 Eastern_Euro 16.41
    4 Baltic 15.82
    5 West_Med 7.64
    6 South_Asian 1.07
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 5.998006

    Dodecad V3 4-Ancestors Oracle
    # Population Percent
    1 West_European 60.70
    2 East_European 16.69
    3 Mediterranean 16.06
    4 West_Asian 3.83
    5 South_Asian 1.35
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Polish @ 2.455546

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  • 1798
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    Originally posted by 1798 View Post
    Samara HG 5555BC R1b1a K15
    North_Sea 25.51
    Atlantic 0.01
    Baltic 17.68
    Eastern_Euro 41.73
    West_Med 0
    West_Asian 0
    East_Med 0
    Red_Sea 0
    South_Asian 1.99
    Southeast_Asian 0
    Siberian 0
    Amerindian 12.02
    Oceanian 1.07
    Northeast_African 0
    Sub-Saharan 0

    Yamnaya 2,900 BC 10231 Z2103
    North_Sea 24.3
    Atlantic 8.21
    Baltic 10.01
    Eastern_Euro 30.66
    West_Med 0
    West_Asian 15.08
    East_Med 0
    Red_Sea 0
    South_Asian 6.22
    Southeast_Asian 0
    Siberian 0
    Amerindian 5.47
    Oceanian 0.05
    Northeast_African 0
    Sub-Saharan 0


    The Samara R1b could not belong to P297 alone. P297 is older that 7,500 ybp. Also he has no west Asian dna.
    R-P297P297/PF6398 * YSC0000269/PF6475/S17 * FGC69/L320/PF6092formed 15900 ybp, TMRCA 13300 ybp

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  • 1798
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    Samara HG 5555BC R1b1a K15
    North_Sea 25.51
    Atlantic 0.01
    Baltic 17.68
    Eastern_Euro 41.73
    West_Med 0
    West_Asian 0
    East_Med 0
    Red_Sea 0
    South_Asian 1.99
    Southeast_Asian 0
    Siberian 0
    Amerindian 12.02
    Oceanian 1.07
    Northeast_African 0
    Sub-Saharan 0

    Yamnaya 2,900 BC 10231 Z2103
    North_Sea 24.3
    Atlantic 8.21
    Baltic 10.01
    Eastern_Euro 30.66
    West_Med 0
    West_Asian 15.08
    East_Med 0
    Red_Sea 0
    South_Asian 6.22
    Southeast_Asian 0
    Siberian 0
    Amerindian 5.47
    Oceanian 0.05
    Northeast_African 0
    Sub-Saharan 0


    The Samara R1b could not belong to P297 alone. P297 is older that 7,500 ybp. Also he has no west Asian dna.

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  • rachelleleclaire
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    K15 results for F362048:

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Lithuanian @ 7.958678
    2 Estonian @ 10.052436
    3 Belorussian @ 11.782290
    4 Estonian_Polish @ 12.907417
    5 Southwest_Russian @ 13.590520
    6 Polish @ 14.278698
    7 Ukrainian @ 14.391344
    8 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 14.425856
    9 Russian_Smolensk @ 14.646840
    10 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 15.146041
    11 South_Polish @ 15.615285
    12 Kargopol_Russian @ 17.056225
    13 Erzya @ 17.462105
    14 East_Finnish @ 18.705181
    15 Finnish @ 18.846146
    16 La_Brana-1 @ 21.197609
    17 Southwest_Finnish @ 21.562819
    18 Croatian @ 22.966999
    19 Hungarian @ 24.233406
    20 Moldavian @ 24.511396

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Estonian +50% Lithuanian @ 7.831858


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Estonian +25% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian @ 7.831858


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 7.554806
    2 Estonian + Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 7.831858
    3 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 7.958678
    4 Belorussian + Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 8.582541
    5 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian @ 8.606662
    6 Finnish + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 8.633144
    7 Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian @ 8.712763
    8 Estonian + Estonian + Estonian + Lithuanian @ 8.718904
    9 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 8.722831
    10 Belorussian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 8.789214
    11 Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 8.817628
    12 Estonian + Estonian_Polish + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 8.826287
    13 Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Southwest_Russian @ 8.870245
    14 East_Finnish + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 8.954267
    15 Belorussian + Estonian + Estonian + Lithuanian @ 8.972262
    16 Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 8.993505
    17 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Polish @ 8.993839
    18 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Southwest_Russian @ 9.029572
    19 Estonian_Polish + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 9.034766
    20 Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Polish @ 9.065020

    Seems pretty accurate considering 8/8 of the great grandparents of this test holder were born in Latvia, nestled between Lithuania, Estonia, Belarus, Russia. And the direct Y line has shown up as I2a1b2... (carpathian/dinaric).
    No Latvian population, but Estonian_Polish is a category?

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  • N21163
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    Originally posted by James78 View Post
    No. My family is immediately British/UK (my father's mother's family clan has more than 1,000 years of history in Ireland). My distant relatives are European - dutch, danish, netherlands so that general area.
    The calculator has limitations and it is unable to differentiate your results than that of its german samples. It's all a best fit approach, there may be more refined calculators in the future that can give more accurate results for everyone.

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  • 1798
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    Originally posted by 1798 View Post
    My dodecad V3 result
    # Population Percent
    1 West_European 55.32
    2 Mediterranean 23.38
    3 East_European 12.06
    4 West_Asian 7.29
    5 South_Asian 1.45
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Argyll + Argyll + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.146069

    My Wife's results
    # Population Percent
    1 West_European 56.25
    2 Mediterranean 24.37
    3 East_European 10.80
    4 West_Asian 6.95
    5 South_Asian 1.14

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Orkney + Orkney + Orkney + Argyll @ 0.678903

    Hinxton 4
    # Population Percent
    1 West_European 53.13
    2 Mediterranean 25.96
    3 East_European 10.62
    4 West_Asian 6.95
    5 South_Asian 2.19


    Finished reading population data. 227 populations found.
    12 components mode.

    1 French + Hungarians + Irish + Orkney @ 2.206851

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  • 1798
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    My dodecad V3 result
    # Population Percent
    1 West_European 55.32
    2 Mediterranean 23.38
    3 East_European 12.06
    4 West_Asian 7.29
    5 South_Asian 1.45
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Argyll + Argyll + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.146069

    My Wife's results
    # Population Percent
    1 West_European 56.25
    2 Mediterranean 24.37
    3 East_European 10.80
    4 West_Asian 6.95
    5 South_Asian 1.14

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Orkney + Orkney + Orkney + Argyll @ 0.678903

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  • 1798
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    Originally posted by James78 View Post
    No. My family is immediately British/UK (my father's mother's family clan has more than 1,000 years of history in Ireland). My distant relatives are European - dutch, danish, netherlands so that general area.
    My Wife's K15 can't be right. I think that her Orcadian and west Scottish result is wrong. I think that she is getting that result because of her high percentage markers from the North Sea. The spread sheet for the populations has Orcadian at 39% NS and she has 37% NS.I have 34% NS so I am drawn towards the Irish average.

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  • James78
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    Originally posted by 1798 View Post
    Are you 97% German?
    No. My family is immediately British/UK (my father's mother's family clan has more than 1,000 years of history in Ireland). My distant relatives are European - dutch, danish, netherlands so that general area.

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  • 1798
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    Originally posted by James78 View Post
    That's what I thought but was a tad confused.

    If one looks at the oracle singular - not the oracle - 4 - for some of my results it is a bit mind boggling.

    I mean does


    Primary - Secondary - Distance
    97% German - 2.4% Kalash - @ 0.96 mean that I am closely related to that % of Germans & Kalash or is it merely taking a stab in the dark.
    Are you 97% German?

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  • James78
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    Originally posted by N21163 View Post
    That's not how it works. You may wish to refer to this previous post for clarification: http://forums.familytreedna.com/show...&postcount=229
    That's what I thought but was a tad confused.

    If one looks at the oracle singular - not the oracle - 4 - for some of my results it is a bit mind boggling.

    I mean does


    Primary - Secondary - Distance
    97% German - 2.4% Kalash - @ 0.96 mean that I am closely related to that % of Germans & Kalash or is it merely taking a stab in the dark.

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  • N21163
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    Originally posted by James78 View Post

    Can someone clarify one thing for me - the @ 2 or whatever how would one translate that into generations back.
    That's not how it works. You may wish to refer to this previous post for clarification: http://forums.familytreedna.com/show...&postcount=229

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  • James78
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    K13 - Oracle 4
    North_Atlantic 48.55%
    Baltic 23.37%
    West_Med 13.59%
    West_Asian 5.42%
    East_Med 6.11%
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian 1.06%
    East_Asian -
    Siberian 0.76%
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African 0.27%
    Sub-Saharan 0.87%

    1 Southeast_English @ 2.818830
    2 Orcadian @ 4.937635
    3 South_Dutch @ 5.119075
    4 Southwest_English @ 5.465875
    5 Danish @ 5.533367
    6 North_Dutch @ 5.549969
    7 North_German @ 6.091981
    8 Irish @ 6.420862
    9 West_German @ 6.437692
    10 West_Scottish @ 6.673770
    11 Norwegian @ 8.315095
    12 Swedish @ 10.129988
    13 French @ 11.483827
    14 Austrian @ 13.529466
    15 East_German @ 14.381823
    16 North_Swedish @ 16.104662
    17 Hungarian @ 18.828215
    18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.606329
    19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 21.010237
    20 Southwest_French @ 21.221125

    K15 - Oracle 4
    North_Sea 32.72%
    Atlantic 29.38%
    Baltic 10.85%
    Eastern_Euro 8.42%
    West_Med 9.30%
    West_Asian 3.94%
    East_Med 3.32%
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian 0.83%
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian 0.23%
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan 1.01%

    1 Southeast_English @ 3.403062
    2 Southwest_English @ 3.893429
    3 South_Dutch @ 4.869030
    4 North_German @ 5.157701
    5 Irish @ 5.202199
    6 West_Scottish @ 6.047247
    7 Danish @ 6.092682
    8 North_Dutch @ 6.579273
    9 Orcadian @ 8.001540
    10 West_German @ 8.639512
    11 French @ 10.112618
    12 Norwegian @ 10.896699
    13 Swedish @ 11.954221
    14 West_Norwegian @ 12.236145
    15 East_German @ 13.285188
    16 North_Swedish @ 14.350145
    17 Austrian @ 16.954191
    18 Southwest_Finnish @ 17.898115
    19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 18.211969
    20 Hungarian @ 18.559036


    Can someone clarify one thing for me - the @ 2 or whatever how would one translate that into generations back.

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