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  • 192971
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    4-Ancestors Oracle critique

    The 4-Ancestors Oracle is a stupid way to fit population percent (like "North_Sea" etc) data to the averages of current populations for many people. Of course, if not all of your (great)grandparents are from the same population, then 4-Ancestors Oracle's coarse 25% population chunks may fit adequately to your data.

    For myself (known roots widely and deeply West-Finnish, with some East-Finnish) the plain Oracle gives better results.

    1 Southwest_Finnish 6.19
    2 Finnish 8.28
    3 East_Finnish 8.9
    4 Polish 12.41
    5 North_Swedish 12.67

    1 90.8% Southwest_Finnish + 9.2% Mari @5.23
    2 89.5% Southwest_Finnish + 10.5% Chuvash @5.34
    3 95.8% Southwest_Finnish + 4.2% Selkup @5.49
    4 83.2% East_Finnish + 16.8% French_Basque @5.5

    Already there can be seen that compared to the average "Southwest_Finnish" I am more eastern (Mari, Chuvash, Selkup), but compared to the average "East_Finnish" I am more western (French_Basque). The third composition is already clearly an artifact, and the fourth even more.

    For comparison, my 4-Ancestors Oracle four population fitting results:
    1 East_Finnish + Irish + Kargopol_Russian + Southwest_Finnish @6.414351
    2 East_Finnish + Kargopol_Russian + Southwest_Finnish + West_Scottish @6.416669
    3 Irish + Irish + Lithuanian + Mari @6.454047
    4 Irish + Lithuanian + Mari + West_Scottish @6.472548
    ...
    13 East_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish @ 6.711174

    The best fit of those (~6.41) is, due to the coarse fitting, more distant than the best fit by plain Oracle (5.23). Here it can also be seen that the 25% chunks force the population components to combine wildly, so that the third and fourth compositions do not even recognize any Finnish component in me, and still the Irish/West_Scottish artifact component manages to enter all the top four fits.
    Last edited by 192971; 14 April 2015, 03:45 AM.

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  • 1798
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    Originally posted by acollette49 View Post
    Can anyone explain a bit about what the 2, 3, and 4, populations things are? My ancestry is overwhelmingly French, according to all available records to the 1600s. I don't understand what the Portuguese and Spanish populations imply.

    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
    Admix Results (sorted):
    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 31.20
    2 Atlantic 26.72
    3 West_Med 14.88
    4 Baltic 9.39
    5 Eastern_Euro 7.43
    6 East_Med 6.33
    7 Northeast_African 1.61
    8 West_Asian 1.61


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 French @ 5.702926
    2 South_Dutch @ 5.936514
    3 West_German @ 7.878894
    4 Southwest_English @ 7.903749
    5 Southeast_English @ 9.354365
    6 North_German @ 11.599725
    7 Irish @ 11.844362
    8 North_Dutch @ 12.209360
    9 Danish @ 12.211636
    10 West_Scottish @ 12.381487
    11 Spanish_Galicia @ 12.828498
    12 Spanish_Cataluna @ 12.986294
    13 Orcadian @ 13.189578
    14 Portuguese @ 13.961959
    15 East_German @ 14.307505
    16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 14.624957
    17 Norwegian @ 14.884726
    18 Spanish_Murcia @ 15.939046
    19 Spanish_Extremadura @ 16.030125
    20 Swedish @ 16.052277

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Spanish_Murcia +50% West_Norwegian @ 2.700714

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.681847

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Portuguese + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.338215
    2 Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.475672
    3 Portuguese + Spanish_Andalucia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.515607
    4 Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.536214
    5 Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.604297
    6 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.607214
    7 Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.607295
    8 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.632636
    9 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.637018
    10 Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.651531
    11 Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Aragon + West_Norwegian @ 2.654937
    12 Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Norwegian @ 2.669434
    13 Portuguese + Spanish_Aragon + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.673047
    14 Norwegian + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.674666
    15 Portuguese + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 2.679759
    16 Norwegian + Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.681847
    17 Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.689327
    18 Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.694232
    19 Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.700101
    20 Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.700714
    If you click on oracle you will see your primary population result which is France. Those other links could be ancient.

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  • N21163
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    Originally posted by acollette49 View Post
    Can anyone explain a bit about what the 2, 3, and 4, populations things are? My ancestry is overwhelmingly French, according to all available records to the 1600s. I don't understand what the Portuguese and Spanish populations imply.

    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
    Admix Results (sorted):
    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 31.20
    2 Atlantic 26.72
    3 West_Med 14.88
    4 Baltic 9.39
    5 Eastern_Euro 7.43
    6 East_Med 6.33
    7 Northeast_African 1.61
    8 West_Asian 1.61


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 French @ 5.702926
    2 South_Dutch @ 5.936514
    3 West_German @ 7.878894
    4 Southwest_English @ 7.903749
    5 Southeast_English @ 9.354365
    6 North_German @ 11.599725
    7 Irish @ 11.844362
    8 North_Dutch @ 12.209360
    9 Danish @ 12.211636
    10 West_Scottish @ 12.381487
    11 Spanish_Galicia @ 12.828498
    12 Spanish_Cataluna @ 12.986294
    13 Orcadian @ 13.189578
    14 Portuguese @ 13.961959
    15 East_German @ 14.307505
    16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 14.624957
    17 Norwegian @ 14.884726
    18 Spanish_Murcia @ 15.939046
    19 Spanish_Extremadura @ 16.030125
    20 Swedish @ 16.052277

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Spanish_Murcia +50% West_Norwegian @ 2.700714

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.681847

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Portuguese + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.338215
    2 Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.475672
    3 Portuguese + Spanish_Andalucia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.515607
    4 Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.536214
    5 Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.604297
    6 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.607214
    7 Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.607295
    8 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.632636
    9 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.637018
    10 Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.651531
    11 Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Aragon + West_Norwegian @ 2.654937
    12 Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Norwegian @ 2.669434
    13 Portuguese + Spanish_Aragon + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.673047
    14 Norwegian + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.674666
    15 Portuguese + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 2.679759
    16 Norwegian + Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.681847
    17 Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.689327
    18 Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.694232
    19 Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.700101
    20 Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.700714
    Gedmatch admixture calculators use an algorithm to extrapolate what percentage of genetic groupings i.e. North Sea, Atlantic etc you have in your autosomal DNA. The algorithm then compares your percentage results for each group and compares them with "averages" taken from a set of sample populations. This then produces an approximation of which population(s) your results are most similar to.

    You will notice that your top result is "French @ 5.702926"

    This software provides a "best fit" based on the information from the sample populations. These calculators may work for some people and not others, so don't be too alarmed just yet.

    It could be that you have some Spanish/Portuguese/Norwegian ancestry in your background or it may be that these are the populations that the admixture calculator thinks your results are "most similar too". This process does have limitations but it is worth considering how our ancestry fits into history.

    Considering French history, migrations, wars, invasions and shifting borders or numerous French/Frankish duchies, you could possibly be that you have some of these populations in your genetic ancestry. Confirming these results with genealogical records may be difficult however.

    I hope this helps.
    Last edited by N21163; 13 April 2015, 11:49 PM.

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  • acollette49
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    Can anyone explain a bit about what the 2, 3, and 4, populations things are? My ancestry is overwhelmingly French, according to all available records to the 1600s. I don't understand what the Portuguese and Spanish populations imply.

    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
    Admix Results (sorted):
    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 31.20
    2 Atlantic 26.72
    3 West_Med 14.88
    4 Baltic 9.39
    5 Eastern_Euro 7.43
    6 East_Med 6.33
    7 Northeast_African 1.61
    8 West_Asian 1.61


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 French @ 5.702926
    2 South_Dutch @ 5.936514
    3 West_German @ 7.878894
    4 Southwest_English @ 7.903749
    5 Southeast_English @ 9.354365
    6 North_German @ 11.599725
    7 Irish @ 11.844362
    8 North_Dutch @ 12.209360
    9 Danish @ 12.211636
    10 West_Scottish @ 12.381487
    11 Spanish_Galicia @ 12.828498
    12 Spanish_Cataluna @ 12.986294
    13 Orcadian @ 13.189578
    14 Portuguese @ 13.961959
    15 East_German @ 14.307505
    16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 14.624957
    17 Norwegian @ 14.884726
    18 Spanish_Murcia @ 15.939046
    19 Spanish_Extremadura @ 16.030125
    20 Swedish @ 16.052277

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Spanish_Murcia +50% West_Norwegian @ 2.700714

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.681847

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Portuguese + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.338215
    2 Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.475672
    3 Portuguese + Spanish_Andalucia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.515607
    4 Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.536214
    5 Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.604297
    6 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.607214
    7 Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.607295
    8 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.632636
    9 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.637018
    10 Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.651531
    11 Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Aragon + West_Norwegian @ 2.654937
    12 Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Norwegian @ 2.669434
    13 Portuguese + Spanish_Aragon + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.673047
    14 Norwegian + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.674666
    15 Portuguese + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 2.679759
    16 Norwegian + Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.681847
    17 Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.689327
    18 Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.694232
    19 Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.700101
    20 Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.700714

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  • 1798
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    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 96.7% Irish + 3.3% Kalash @ 3.54
    2 96.6% Irish + 3.4% North_Ossetian @ 3.56
    3 93.3% Irish + 6.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.57
    4 96.8% Irish + 3.2% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.58
    5 65% Irish + 35% North_German @ 3.58
    6 96.9% Irish + 3.1% Pathan @ 3.6
    7 94.3% Irish + 5.7% Lithuanian @ 3.6
    8 96.5% Irish + 3.5% Chechen @ 3.6
    9 97.1% Irish + 2.9% Sindhi @ 3.6
    10 97% Irish + 3% Burusho @ 3.6
    11 96.6% Irish + 3.4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.61
    12 96.6% Irish + 3.4% Kabardin @ 3.62
    13 94.1% Irish + 5.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.62
    14 93.9% Irish + 6.1% Belorussian @ 3.62
    15 97.5% Irish + 2.5% Kshatriya @ 3.63
    16 96.8% Irish + 3.2% Adygei @ 3.63
    17 97.3% Irish + 2.7% Brahmin_UP @ 3.63
    18 97.5% Irish + 2.5% Gujarati @ 3.64
    19 96.8% Irish + 3.2% Balkar @ 3.64
    20 97.1% Irish + 2.9% Balochi @ 3.65

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  • Jomid59
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    1 North_Sea 41.05
    2 Atlantic 26.01
    3 West_Med 9.63
    4 Baltic 9.43
    5 Eastern_Euro 5.39
    6 West_Asian 4.42
    7 Red_Sea 1.10

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German @ 4.726198
    2 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 4.759004
    3 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Norwegian @ 4.847216
    4 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 4.980344
    5 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 5.158590
    6 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 5.175959
    7 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Norwegian @ 5.183391
    8 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 5.190785
    9 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German @ 5.191773
    10 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 5.196063
    11 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 5.196285
    12 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 5.200648
    13 French + Orcadian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 5.210138
    14 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 5.230607
    15 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_Norwegian @ 5.232418
    16 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 5.242449
    17 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 5.249217
    18 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 5.262799
    19 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German @ 5.271689
    20 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 5.294653

    Red Sea component : EthioHelix Africa K10 + Palestinian
    East-Africa1 2.59%
    Khoi-San 1.74%
    Palestinian 91.85%
    Omotic 3.81%

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  • 1798
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    Originally posted by N21163 View Post
    Sykes can make sensationalist claims at times. I personally put him in a similar category to Alistair Moffat.



    I don't think what you are asking can be done (to simply remove these components from the K15 calculator).
    Have a look at your K15 admixture results but click on Admixture Proportions by Chromosome instead of Oracle and you should be able to see what I mean.

    A new algorithm would need to be written and one again you may have different grouping names and different percentage results for each category.

    Any queries about the calculators contact Davidski directly. It states this on the gedmatch results.
    I think that Prof. Sykes did say that he found Mtdna H in the dna of "Red lady of Paviland". Mtdna H was found in the dna of another ancient red lady from El Miron. Was he wrong? Academics can get it right some of the time.


    That would be progress.

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  • MMaddi
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    Originally posted by MMaddi View Post
    And don't forget that Sykes is seriously pursuing the cult belief that Bigfoot is a cross between a human and an ape. He's always been more a writer of science books geared to a popular audience than a scientist.
    Here are links to pages about Sykes' involvement in Bigfoot and related (Yeti in Asia) research.

    http://doubtfulnews.com/tag/dna/ - read the first two posts, dated April 4 and 5

    http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.o....full.pdf+html

    http://www.nbcnews.com/science/weird...entity-n144986 - Although his DNA analysis did not confirm any connection to a human or another primate, Sykes said, "I don't think this finishes the Bigfoot myth at all. What it does do is show that there is a way for Bigfoot enthusiasts to go back out into the forest and get the real thing."

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  • N21163
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    Originally posted by 1798 View Post
    Prof.Sykes is a genetic scientist and a small number of people rejected his theory that R1b arrived in the Isles after the Ice-Age, because it did not fit with their views of their own ethnic identity. The evidence has not been produced yet, that he was totally wrong, because there has not been enough ancient dna test results. In fact there has been no ancient dna tests from the Isles to date.
    Sykes can make sensationalist claims at times. I personally put him in a similar category to Alistair Moffat.

    Originally posted by MMaddi View Post
    And don't forget that Sykes is seriously pursuing the cult belief that Bigfoot is a cross between a human and an ape. He's always been more a writer of science books geared to a popular audience than a scientist.
    Hmmm...

    Originally posted by 1798 View Post
    @ N21163
    The highlighted groups are my ancient links.I would like Davidski to take those markers out of his calculator.

    My K15
    Population *
    North_Sea 34.43%
    Atlantic 31.38%
    Baltic 13.42%
    Eastern_Euro 7.33%
    West_Med 5.38%
    West_Asian 5.47%

    East_Med - * *
    Red_Sea - * *
    South_Asian 1.95%
    Southeast_Asian - * *
    Siberian - * *
    Amerindian 0.44%
    Oceanian - * *
    Northeast_African 0.20%
    Sub-Saharan - * *
    I don't think what you are asking can be done (to simply remove these components from the K15 calculator).
    Have a look at your K15 admixture results but click on Admixture Proportions by Chromosome instead of Oracle and you should be able to see what I mean.

    A new algorithm would need to be written and one again you may have different grouping names and different percentage results for each category.

    Any queries about the calculators contact Davidski directly. It states this on the gedmatch results.
    Last edited by N21163; 12 April 2015, 04:17 PM.

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  • 1798
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    Here are mine ,my Wife and Son's K15 results and the first line in each. We all have 16 GG grandparents born in Ireland. We can go back further with some of the lines. It depends on the church records.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 4.162835
    1 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.465515
    1 Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.420913

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  • Subwoofer
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    Never been much of a fan of these population finder things but I can see the draw if you are fishing about trying to find your genetic makeup.

    I'm a Brit and my father's mostly English with ancestry (going back 5 generations) from Shropshire, Staffordshire, Gloucestershire, Derbyshire, Somerset and Radnorshire, so a heavy accent on SW England.

    My mother conversely is mostly Welsh with ancestry from Monmouthshire, Glamorgan, Pembrokeshire, Breconshire, Radnorshire and Gloucestershire and one ancestor from Ireland, so pretty much S. Wales.

    Using the K15 calculator with the Oracle 4 population thingy gives these results

    Mum

    1 Danish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_Norwegian @ 1.604051
    2 Norwegian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 1.713337
    3 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_Norwegian @ 1.780728
    4 Danish + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 1.790308
    5 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 1.797148

    Dad

    1 French_Basque + Southwest_English + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.762743
    2 French_Basque + North_Dutch + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.843920
    3 French_Basque + Orcadian + Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.871064
    4 French_Basque + Southwest_English + Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.878989
    5 French_Basque + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.909098

    Me

    1 Southwest_French + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.160055
    2 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.195745
    3 North_Dutch + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 2.244851
    4 Norwegian + Norwegian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.260586
    5 North_Dutch + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Norwegian @ 2.263885


    Personally I beg to differ : )

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  • NCroots
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    Here are my results. There seems to be some variance between Eurogenes & myOrigins. My known ancestry is English, German, and Scots-Irish. (There is a strong oral tradition of some Jewish ancestry on my mother's side. There also appears to have been some African ancestry from the 17th century in colonial Virginia.)

    Eurogenes K13

    North_Atlantic 46.42%
    Baltic 24.61%
    West_Med 14.40%
    West_Asian 7.34%
    East_Med 3.66%
    Red_Sea 0.50%
    South_Asian 1.46%
    East_Asian -
    Siberian 0.24%
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan 1.37%

    Eurogenes V2 K15

    North_Sea 32.55%
    Atlantic 27.31%
    Baltic 12.04%
    Eastern_Euro 9.21%
    West_Med 10.26%
    West_Asian 6.06%
    East_Med -
    Red_Sea 0.41%
    South_Asian 0.93%
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan 1.22%

    myOrigins

    European 92%
    • British Isles 51%
    • Scandinavia 36%
    • Southern Europe 5%


    Middle Eastern 7%
    • Asia Minor 6%
    • North Africa 1%

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  • Kdub
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    K15

    Population
    North_Sea 29.25%
    Atlantic 30.78%
    Baltic 10.67%
    Eastern_Euro 7.53%
    West_Med 13.62%
    West_Asian 3.52%
    East_Med 1.15%
    Red_Sea 2.43%
    South_Asian 0.48%
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.58%
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    K13

    Population
    North_Atlantic 46.41%
    Baltic 22.46%
    West_Med 17.79%
    West_Asian 4.31%
    East_Med 4.38%
    Red_Sea 2.61%
    South_Asian 1.07%
    East_Asian 0.24%
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.73%
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

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  • EastAnglian
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    Population
    North_Sea 38.35%
    Atlantic 24.32%
    Baltic 12.15%
    Eastern_Euro 6.90%
    West_Med 7.61%
    West_Asian 4.13%
    East_Med 4.83%
    Red_Sea 0.67%
    South_Asian 0.37%
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.46%
    Oceanian 0.18%
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Your results aren't that different from my English ones.I guess the East Med is from the Romans and that's why you don't have any.
    Last edited by EastAnglian; 12 April 2015, 11:41 AM.

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  • acollette49
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    K15

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 31.2
    2 Atlantic 26.72
    3 West_Med 14.88
    4 Baltic 9.39
    5 Eastern_Euro 7.43
    6 East_Med 6.33
    7 Northeast_African 1.61
    8 West_Asian 1.61
    9 Amerindian 0.5
    10 Southeast_Asian 0.2
    11 Oceanian 0.15


    K13

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 44.7
    2 West_Med 20.02
    3 Baltic 19.73
    4 East_Med 9.29
    5 West_Asian 2.99
    6 Northeast_African 1.49
    7 Amerindian 0.79
    8 East_Asian 0.47
    9 Oceanian 0.37
    10 Siberian 0.09
    11 Red_Sea 0.05


    Paper trails say very French, slightly English, Irish, Scottish, Portuguese, German, Belgian, Swiss, and Amerindian.
    Last edited by acollette49; 12 April 2015, 11:01 AM. Reason: added info

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