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  • #46
    Clearly I'm related to F999935.

    Comparing Kit F190833 (*Tz) and F999935 (Ust-Ishim,Siberia, 45ky)

    Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 150 SNPs
    Mismatch-bunching Limit = 75 SNPs
    Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM

    Largest segment = 7.1 cM
    Total of segments > 1 cM = 735.3 cM

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    • #47
      Originally posted by 1798 View Post
      Yamnaya ID 10370 3,300-2,700 BC R1b
      North_Sea 26.16
      Atlantic 0.02* *
      Baltic 11.16
      Eastern_Euro 33.16
      West_Med - * *
      West_Asian 22.55
      East_Med - * *
      Red_Sea - * *
      South_Asian 2.10
      Southeast_Asian - * *
      Siberian - * *
      Amerindian 4.99
      Oceanian
      Northeast_African - * *
      Sub-Saharan -

      My result
      North_Sea 34.43%
      Atlantic 31.38%
      Baltic 13.42%
      Eastern_Euro 7.33%
      West_Med 5.38%
      West_Asian 5.47%
      East_Med -
      Red_Sea -
      South_Asian 1.95%
      Southeast_Asian -
      Siberian -
      Amerindian 0.44%
      Oceanian -
      Northeast_African 0.20%
      Sub-Saharan -


      How am I linked to this Yamnaya?!!!!!!
      How did a man from the Steppe get 26.16% autosomal dna from North_Sea region?

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      • #48
        I found these results at Eurogenes blog. I hope the author does not mind me posting them.

        Spanish R1b1 10410 5,066 BC
        Population *
        North_Sea 0.01
        Atlantic 25.14
        Baltic ---
        Eastern_Euro --
        West_Med 61.98
        West_Asian --
        East_Med 11.98*
        Red_Sea 0.89 *
        South_Asian ---
        Southeast_Asian - * *
        Siberian - * *
        Amerindian ----
        Oceanian ---
        Northeast_African - * *
        Sub-Saharan -


        Germany 10559 R* 3,537 BC
        Population *
        North_Sea 18.58
        Atlantic 27.3
        Baltic 3.94
        Eastern_Euro --
        West_Med 38.05*
        West_Asian --
        East_Med 10.87*
        Red_Sea 0.8* *
        South_Asian ---
        Southeast_Asian - * *
        Siberian - * *
        Amerindian
        Oceanian 0.46
        Northeast_African - * *
        Sub-Saharan -
        Last edited by 1798; 5 March 2015, 07:45 AM. Reason: mistake

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        • #49
          La Brana and the Irish

          La Brana Spain 7000 ybp
          Population * *
          ANE 3.98%
          ASE 0.45%
          WHG-UHG 92.37%
          East_Eurasian 2.31%
          West_African 0.86%
          East_African - * *
          ENF - * *


          Population *
          North_Sea 29.34%
          Atlantic 30.24%
          Baltic 28.15%
          Eastern_Euro 11.87%
          West_Med - * *
          West_Asian - * *
          East_Med - * *
          Red_Sea - * *
          South_Asian - * *
          Southeast_Asian - * *
          Siberian - * *
          Amerindian - * *
          Oceanian 0.40%
          Northeast_African - * *
          Sub-Saharan - * *

          Using 4 populations approximation:
          1 Irish + Irish + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 10.405072
          2 Irish + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + West_Scottish @ 10.506998
          3 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 10.622088
          4 Irish + Irish + La_Brana-1 + Lithuanian @ 10.768566
          5 Belorussian + Irish + Irish + Lithuanian @ 10.817389
          6 Estonian + Irish + Irish + Lithuanian @ 10.859822
          7 Irish + La_Brana-1 + Lithuanian + West_Scottish @ 10.914764
          8 Belorussian + Irish + Lithuanian + West_Scottish @ 10.926410
          9 Irish + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Southeast_English @ 10.944150
          10 Danish + Irish + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 10.959003
          11 Irish + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Orcadian @ 10.959280
          12 Irish + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + North_Dutch @ 10.960265
          13 Irish + La_Brana-1 + Lithuanian + North_German @ 10.991408

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          • #50
            BB 10806 2,296-2,190 BC
            Eurogenes K15
            North_Sea 36.57
            Atlantic 29.08
            Baltic 12.89
            Eastern_Euro 7.22
            West_Med 0
            West_Asian 12.34
            East_Med 0
            Red_Sea 0.04
            South_Asian 0.57
            Southeast_Asian 0
            Siberian 0.18
            Amerindian 1.09
            Oceanian 0
            Northeast_African 0
            Sub-Saharan 0

            Using 4 populations approximation:
            1 Loschbour+Orcadian+Orcadian+Tabassaran @ 10.370132
            2 Loschbour+Orcadian+Tabassaran+West_Scottish @ 10.519837
            3 Irish+Loschbour+Orcadian+Tabassaran @ 10.62944
            4 North_German+North_German+North_German+Orcadian @ 10.696618
            5 Chechen+Loschbour+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 10.742068
            6 Loschbour+Tabassaran+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 10.742768
            7 North_German+North_German+North_German+West_Scotti sh @ 10.83119
            8 Irish+North_German+North_German+North_German @ 10.831361
            9 Icelandic+Loschbour+Orcadian+Tabassaran @ 10.837782
            10 North_Dutch+North_German+North_German+North_German @ 10.863356
            11 Irish+Loschbour+Tabassaran+West_Scottish @ 10.867232
            12 Loschbour+Orcadian+Tabassaran+West_Norwegian @ 10.868168
            13 Irish+Irish+Orcadian+Yamnaya_I0357 @ 10.875977
            14 North_Dutch+North_German+North_German+Orcadian @ 10.881809
            15 Irish+North_German+North_German+Orcadian @ 10.886415
            16 Irish+Orcadian+Orcadian+Yamnaya_I0357 @ 10.901444
            17 Irish+North_Dutch+North_German+North_German @ 10.910602
            18 North_German+North_German+North_German+North_Germa n @ 10.913906
            19 Irish+Orcadian+West_Scottish+Yamnaya_I0357 @ 10.93316
            20 North_German+North_German+Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 10.935217
            21 North_Dutch+North_German+North_German+West_Scottis h @ 10.93889
            22 North_German+North_German+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 10.940224
            23 Danish+North_German+North_German+Orcadian @ 10.945155
            24 KO1+Orcadian+Orcadian+Tabassaran @ 10.945345
            25 Irish+Irish+North_German+North_German @ 10.95435
            26 Chechen+Loschbour+Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 10.958926
            27 Danish+North_German+North_German+North_German @ 10.962831
            28 KO1+Orcadian+Tabassaran+West_Scottish @ 10.963812
            29 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_German+North_German @ 10.965498
            30 Irish+North_German+North_German+West_Scottish @ 10.972189
            31 Irish+Irish+Irish+Yamnaya_I0357 @ 10.972261
            32 North_German+North_German+North_German+West_Norweg ian @ 10.984233
            33 Orcadian+Orcadian+West_Scottish+Yamnaya_I0357 @ 10.989194
            34 Danish+Irish+North_German+North_German @ 10.990535
            35 Loschbour+Tabassaran+West_Norwegian+West_Scottish @ 10.997244
            36 Irish+Irish+West_Scottish+Yamnaya_I0357 @ 10.998355
            37 North_German+North_German+West_Scottish+West_Scott ish @ 11.003735
            38 Orcadian+West_Scottish+West_Scottish+Yamnaya_I0357 @ 11.003783
            39 Irish+Irish+Loschbour+Tabassaran @ 11.004025
            40 Danish+North_German+North_German+West_Scottish @

            Mine
            Population * *
            North_Sea 34.43%
            Atlantic 31.38%
            Baltic 13.42%
            Eastern_Euro 7.33%
            West_Med 5.38%
            West_Asian 5.47%
            East_Med - * *
            Red_Sea - * *
            South_Asian 1.95%
            Southeast_Asian - * *
            Siberian - * *
            Amerindian 0.44%
            Oceanian - * *
            Northeast_African 0.20%
            Sub-Saharan - * *

            I am closer to this BB than the others.

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            • #51
              Bell Beaker 10112
              Population *
              ANE 16.53%
              ASE 0.67%
              WHG-UHG 68.63%
              East_Eurasian - * *
              West_African 0.85%
              East_African - * *
              ENF 13.33%

              Population * *
              North_Sea 36.09%
              Atlantic 27.64%
              Baltic 14.00%
              Eastern_Euro 12.01%
              West_Med 7.46%
              West_Asian 1.55%
              East_Med - * *
              Red_Sea 0.87%
              South_Asian - * *
              Southeast_Asian - * *
              Siberian - * *
              Amerindian 0.38%
              Oceanian - * *
              Northeast_African - * *
              Sub-Saharan - * *


              Using 4 populations approximation:
              1 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_Finnish + West_Norwegian @ 2.568915
              2 Southwest_English + Southwest_Finnish + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.578040
              3 Irish + Irish + Southwest_Finnish + West_Norwegian @ 2.664771
              4 Irish + Southeast_English + Southwest_Finnish + West_Norwegian @ 2.686298
              5 Irish + Southwest_Finnish + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.699872
              6 Norwegian + Southwest_English + Southwest_Finnish + West_Scottish @ 2.706602
              7 Southeast_English + Southwest_Finnish + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.708629
              8 Irish + Norwegian + Southwest_Finnish + West_Scottish @ 2.728589
              9 Norwegian + Southwest_Finnish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.729650
              10 Irish + Norwegian + Southwest_English + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.758330
              11 Southwest_Finnish + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.770898
              12 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.771856
              13 North_Dutch + Southwest_Finnish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.780953
              14 Norwegian + Southeast_English + Southwest_Finnish + West_Scottish @ 2.797561
              15 Irish + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.843123
              16 Irish + North_Dutch + Southwest_Finnish + West_Scottish @ 2.847847
              17 North_Dutch + Southwest_English + Southwest_Finnish + West_Scottish @ 2.850838
              18 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_Finnish + West_Norwegian @ 2.876142
              19 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_Finnish + West_Norwegian @ 2.880666
              20 Southwest_English + Southwest_Finnish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.918820


              This shows that the migration from the Steppe is a myth.

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              • #52
                Based on ? ...

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                • #53
                  "Marnie" has some interesting comments on the Eurogenes blog.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                    "Marnie" has some interesting comments on the Eurogenes blog.
                    I've gone to the Eurogenes blog and there are 192 posts in response to Davidski's blog posting. I've started reading these posts and, while some of them are certainly interesting, I'm not about to read all 192 posts to find the post you're referring to.

                    For the sake of easily providing us with what she wrote which you believe is relevant, could you quote her - not paraphrase her, but quote her? And then let us know why you think her quote is relevant to your point.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by MMaddi View Post
                      I've gone to the Eurogenes blog and there are 192 posts in response to Davidski's blog posting. I've started reading these posts and, while some of them are certainly interesting, I'm not about to read all 192 posts to find the post you're referring to.

                      For the sake of easily providing us with what she wrote which you believe is relevant, could you quote her - not paraphrase her, but quote her? And then let us know why you think her quote is relevant to your point.
                      You could go to the bottom of the page and you will see. I cannot copy the posts.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                        You could go to the bottom of the page and you will see. I cannot copy the posts.
                        Why ever not ? you've always been very good at copy paste in the past, in fact a lot of your posts seem to consist of little else.

                        This is an example of copy paste from that blog

                        Originally posted by Chad
                        Can you clarify what your point is

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                          You could go to the bottom of the page and you will see. I cannot copy the posts.
                          Now you're just being obstinate. If you have a point to make, make it clearly and don't play games with us.

                          Do you wonder why people don't take you seriously? Here's an example right here!

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by MMaddi View Post
                            I've gone to the Eurogenes blog and there are 192 posts in response to Davidski's blog posting. I've started reading these posts and, while some of them are certainly interesting, I'm not about to read all 192 posts to find the post you're referring to.

                            For the sake of easily providing us with what she wrote which you believe is relevant, could you quote her - not paraphrase her, but quote her? And then let us know why you think her quote is relevant to your point.
                            I read all the posts and that is how I found " Marnie".

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                              I read all the posts and that is how I found " Marnie".
                              It's laziness. If you can't be bothered to reference something properly then don't bother putting it forward.

                              You seem to be fine copying and pasting abstracts from articles - why is it difficult to provide a link to a forum post??

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by N21163 View Post
                                It's laziness. If you can't be bothered to reference something properly then don't bother putting it forward.

                                You seem to be fine copying and pasting abstracts from articles - why is it difficult to provide a link to a forum post??
                                You don't have to read it. It will not change how you feel about anything to do with dna.


                                "Why is there a next paper from the Reich lab without an official retraction of their current very flawed paper, which received mass media attention?"
                                Last edited by 1798; 8 March 2015, 04:29 AM.

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