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  • loobster
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    So far, two of the folks I talked into testing are now deceased.
    As is a suggested 4th-Remote cousin to me who had responded with valuable records and info when I contacted him about an Ancestral surname matching one of mine.

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  • dna
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    Originally posted by Carpathian View Post
    Could be anything. There is no usual cause. I'm only saying that death is probably at the bottom of the list of causes.
    A warning: today.

    In a couple of years, death would be the primary cause.


    Mr. W.

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  • Carpathian
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    Originally posted by Jim Barrett View Post
    IYO what is the usual cause?
    Could be anything. There is no usual cause. I'm only saying that death is probably at the bottom of the list of causes.

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  • Jim Barrett
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    Originally posted by Carpathian View Post
    IMO, if anyone doesn't respond, there's a reason why. But it usually isn't death.
    IYO what is the usual cause?

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  • Carpathian
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    Originally posted by Conat View Post
    Also keep in mind that the admins are unpaid volunteers and may have to prioritise other things in their life from time to time. They may also get ill, die, etc. and the GDPR fall out from the World Families site suggested a number of them are orphans in need of more help. If the project seems dead it might be worth contacting the admins and asking about it.

    Equally, with GDPR the admins are hamstrung if people don't update their settings. Equally projects do rely on people joining and getting advice on what tests to take first.

    So there are numerous reasons a project may go quiet.
    I've heard this excuse voiced many times on all the GG sites:

    "If they don't respond, they are probably dead".

    IMO, if anyone doesn't respond, there's a reason why. But it usually isn't death.

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  • Conat
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    Also keep in mind that the admins are unpaid volunteers and may have to prioritise other things in their life from time to time. They may also get ill, die, etc. and the GDPR fall out from the World Families site suggested a number of them are orphans in need of more help. If the project seems dead it might be worth contacting the admins and asking about it.

    Equally, with GDPR the admins are hamstrung if people don't update their settings. Equally projects do rely on people joining and getting advice on what tests to take first.

    So there are numerous reasons a project may go quiet.

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  • James Dotson
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    The problem I run in to in my project is that the people who can provide me with specific dna that would answer a lot of questions often will not submit a dna sample, even when I offer to pay. That prevents me from learning anything at all from the project.

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  • Jim Barrett
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    I believe FTDNA said they were shutting new project request until the dust settled down after GDPR, but I can't find that message now.

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  • prairielad
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    colinwaye

    A few GAP FAQ's
    https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/...ion/reference/

    For starting a project
    *Note - currently seems to be disabled with following message
    "Thank you for your interest in a FamilyTreeDNA Group Project. We have suspended applications for new projects until after the GDPR updates are completed. We will begin accepting applications on June 15. We appreciate your patience."
    https://www.familytreedna.com/project-application.aspx

    Alternatively you can inquire through their Open Request Form
    https://www.familytreedna.com/contact
    Select Open Request under the Support section, enter info and select "Group Project"

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  • colinwaye
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    surname project

    How do I start a surname project? Doesn't seem to be one for "Way / Waye".

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  • cjm
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    What kind of information are you looking for in projects?
    OK well like one group I'm in is to locate a mostly intact y chromosome from a the direct descendants of a historical group of people. Over 1,500 members now but no updates...I want to know did you capture those y-chromosomes yet? On which ancestors?

    Another one I'm in is like...trying to locate different lineages within surnames. Ok so, you guys have a lot of members...what did you find out? What did this collection help you locate?

    I guess I'm not looking at it yet as "how did it help me?" But when most of the results for the group come back that you are part of a haplogroup that a large percent of European males have....well that's not helpful. I could Google that. I don't need FamilyTree to tell me the migratory patterns of most European males.

    I'm looking for nuggets of insight that can only be attained through tests and groups.

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  • travers
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    Originally posted by cjm View Post
    Whoops...well, I guess I can't join if I'm not a MacDonald.

    I'm impressed though. I'm impressed with the whole site actually. Wow.

    Back to the topic at hand - you're doing what 99% of the other groups that I see aren't - which is, giving them a concise update on what you're finding with the data.
    What kind of information are you looking for in projects? Most group the data based on who matches who. That in itself is the purpose of most projects to see what lineages match which and just importantly which don't match each other. If there is a lack of data it is because the project members don't supply it. Many members don't supply their earliest known ancestors (even when asked), they don't upload pedigrees and don't change their settings so that their results are public. So if there is a lack of information coming from the surname projects you are looking at I would say it is more lack of participation from members than an administrator not sharing the findings.

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  • cjm
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    Whoops...well, I guess I can't join if I'm not a MacDonald.

    I'm impressed though. I'm impressed with the whole site actually. Wow.

    Back to the topic at hand - you're doing what 99% of the other groups that I see aren't - which is, giving them a concise update on what you're finding with the data.

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  • dtvmcdonald
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    Originally posted by cjm View Post
    dtvmcdonald

    By chance, what's your website?
    Our web site is Clandonaldusa.org, go to the DNA Project.
    However, its usual to join through the project join mechanism at FTDNA, we're called Donald USA.

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  • cjm
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    We need more people in Scotland to do detailed Y Chromosome tests. And, of course, to let use use the data!
    dtvmcdonald

    By chance, what's your website?

    Also, I'd be willing to contribute Y-DNA results, GEDCOM, possible SNP if you're interested. I wasn't born/don't live in Scotland, but my traceable y-line ancestors and surname relatives were miners living in the Lanarkshire County area. Will have some results back late June, early July.
    Last edited by cjm; 25 May 2018, 02:37 PM.

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