How Many People actually get Family Finder Results in the 3-4 week time Frame given..

[Tenn4ever]

The issue isn't whether the month is written out or abbreviate numerically, it's whether the day comes before month or vice versa. You were saying people from all over the world use month, then day - which is simply not true. It's mainly only the US which says/writes it in this order. The majority of the world says/writes it as the day first, then month.

I believe my indication was that people I write to from all over the world use that. It's also possible when I translate their messages in my mind that I translate it into American or should I say U.S.A language in my mind.

[Germanica]

I found this interesting from the article you noted above speaking under the UK discussion:


"Also, YMD is used increasingly especially in applications associated with computers, and per British standard BS ISO 8601:2004,[172] avoiding the ambiguity of the numerical versions of the DMY/MDY formats."

So, the indication is that DMY/MDY is ambiguous which I agree. However, note that the increasing usage is YMD with the M coming before the D a recognition that the month before the day makes more sense.

And as noted, it's mainly used with computers because as I mentioned before, it's only way to get folder/file names by date in chronological order. Apart from that - again - as someone who lived in England for 8 years (and left in 2013 so it's not like this is outdated info), I can assure you that the standard format for dates, whether numerical, written, spoken, etc is day, month, year - not month, day, year.

[dna]

Way off topic

Unlike humans, primitive, early software was unable to sort by date unless some help was provided like 2015-01-25 format. Software is way smarter nowadays, but the format 2015-01-25 stayed with us. Kind of stupid that we (humans) have to add a zero, to accommodate some software needs...

The format used in European (including England) writing was the 25th day of January in the year of our Lord 2015. It originated in medieval Latin (classical Latin dates were... different...), and was mimicked by other languages. That got shortened in various languages in a variety of ways, for example to 25 I 2015 (where I is a Roman numeral, sometimes, also i, and even j). Also when the year was not important, the most common short form was the 25th day of January. And probably all readers here know that 10er was an abbreviation for... December, and not October (8er)...

If anyone knows the origins of writing month before the day number, may be we could all learn.

W.

P.S.
Let's not talk about the year. Please. Suffice to say that in many European countries and languages regnal years were sometimes used.

[dna]

Way off topic - USA

Fourth of July
4th of July

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/scan.htm

Sure, at the top right July 4. 1776.

At the back:
Original Declaration of Independence
dated 4th July 1776

W.

P.S.
The inscriptions are on the real one, not from National Treasure

[Dna-donut]

So, the indication is that DMY/MDY is ambiguous which I agree. However, note that the increasing usage is YMD with the M coming before the D a recognition that the month before the day makes more sense.

That's only an opinion of yours and not substantiated by any means.

[MikeP]

Back to the topic

It's now been six days since there have been any reports of new FF results: 2 reports of batch 602 on the 20th and one for 603 on the 19th. So - Will there be new reports today and tomorrow?

[loudam]

We shall wait and see MikeP!!

My dads expected date of results hasn't changed this week it's still 29th Jan to 12th Feb, hoping 29th Jan is more the real date of results!!

[Tenn4ever]

That's only an opinion of yours and not substantiated by any means.

Yep, my opinion and as the old country song goes "that's my story and I'm sticking with it".

[andreastill.gen]

Clearly I know a different language set than you do Try your experiment in Central Europe Moreover, in some Slavic languages, the construct January 23 would not occur in the spoken language, unless someone would be using an elaborate construct along the lines: I was born in the year 2015, in January, on the 23rd day of the month (or in January, on the 23rd day of the month). I was born on the 23rd day of January, or on the 23rd of January are the usual constructs (adding a year does not change anything)

Late to the conversation but holy cow, yes! Throw Danish into the mix. I've been sitting here for 10 minutes trying to imagine a situation in which someone would ever say the equivalent of April 21st in Danish. Nope. Never. When asked what the date is or when one's birthday is one always responds with the equivalent of the 21st of April (d. 21. april). Unless there is some weird pocket of dialect somewhere in the country were the opposite is the norm I can't ever imagine a Dane saying it.

However, when one asks a Dane in English depending on which language tradition they know best (British, Canadian, American, etc.) they'll offer up the version they know and expect the recipient to understand. My Danish host family uses the 21st of April version in English, though.

Back to the original topic, sort of ... my dad's FF finally came in after 7 weeks. Unfortunately, my full mtDNA ordered September 26th (not plated until October 20th though - discovered 'accidentally' in a conversation with a customer service rep) has been pushed back 4 times now, I think. I've actually lost count. No clue when it will be complete but I'm not expecting it within the new estimated date range in February.

[larzus]

Any new Family Finder results?

None of my kits have received a new FF match since 20th Jan, which is nine days ago now. I thought there'd be a batch coming out yesterday? My Batch 602 result came through on the 20th and so did some from Batch 603 so I guess the rest of Batch 603 was due this week or maybe some of Batch 604. Has anyone had new Family Finder results in the past week?

[phje]

I've received a few new matches dated the 27th.

[Rosa]

None of my kits have received a new FF match since 20th Jan, which is nine days ago now. I thought there'd be a batch coming out yesterday? My Batch 602 result came through on the 20th and so did some from Batch 603 so I guess the rest of Batch 603 was due this week or maybe some of Batch 604. Has anyone had new Family Finder results in the past week?

My FF test is in batch 603, and my results have not come in yet.

[dna]

I've received a few new matches dated the 27th.

Three kits I have checked today, were having new matches from the 27th (yesterday). These were either transfers or people new to FTDNA, since neither Y-DNA nor mtDNA tests were listed for any of them.

W.

[Stevebinfrance]

Corporate management

OK, I understand that there was a problem with suppliers.
OK, I understand that caused delays.
OK, I understand That caused a backlog.

What I don't understand is that in the following month they had a promotion to boost demand. Doesn't the Marketing guy talk to the Lab people? Weren't the delays and backlog discussed at Board level? Was the Marketing guy kept in the dark?

A bit of openness and corporate governance would help, perhaps?

[loudam]

Batch 604

So today is the first day of their expected results time frame!! Who's taking bets that I'll get them today!!!!

I got 3 matches on the 27th Jan, seems to be from results..

Dna

I'd imagine the results are from people just doing the Family Finder test too rather than just transfers....