Get error when uploading ANcestryDNA

[prairielad]

Well this stinks, was hoping for a little better answer but oh well, maybe they will fix it in time. Why offer something and not support it anymore. I'll just move over to Myheritage and GedMatch. May have less hits, but the benefit is I can manage all my files on one login.

Not sure if you realize, but the 23andmeV5 chip only contains around 160,000 SNPs that can be used by FTDNA.
FTDNA tests around 700,000 SNPs
You can not get a very accurate comparison between two people when only comparing 160,000 SNPs.

23andmeV4 contained approx 312,000 SNPs that can be used by FTDNA. One only could receive partial match lists at FTDNA, No distant matches

23andmeV3 contained approx 690,000 SNPs that can be used by FTDNA. This version received full match lists at FTDNA

As you see, 23andme, with each newer version, started testing different SNPs. FTDNA can not compare their SNPs to 23andme if the SNPs are not the same (SNP name and position) .

[Jim Barrett]

Well this stinks, was hoping for a little better answer but oh well, maybe they will fix it in time. Why offer something and not support it anymore. I'll just move over to Myheritage and GedMatch. May have less hits, but the benefit is I can manage all my files on one login.

Yes, this stinks. You are blaming FTDNA for something that 23andMe did. Why don't you blame 23andMe?

[ltd-jean-pull]

Well this stinks, was hoping for a little better answer but oh well, maybe they will fix it in time. Why offer something and not support it anymore. I'll just move over to Myheritage and GedMatch. May have less hits, but the benefit is I can manage all my files on one login.

You won't be able to upload your V5 file to MyHeritage, and currently it can only be uploaded to Gedmatch Genesis, but not the main Gedmatch site.

It is 23andMe that has decided to make a considerable change to the chip they use and therefore the file you can download from them. FamilyTreeDNA hasn't changed anything.

On this page:
https://www.familytreedna.com/autosomal-transfer

it currently says
"Please note that you can only transfer the following versions from 23andMe© and AncestryDNA™:

23andMe© V3
23andMe© V4
AncestryDNA™ V1
AncestryDNA™ V2"

[loriloct18]

There isn't really a way to fix it since its just simply missing the data needed to do a good comparison and find matches on FTDNA, which is why they haven't made it compatible and they may not ever add it unfortunately. Even if they did, it would be so incomplete that you would have tons of matches missing.

The fix I made is only a small percentage different from the previous Ancestry.com results, so its not missing enough data to matter.

Well this stinks, was hoping for a little better answer but oh well, maybe they will fix it in time. Why offer something and not support it anymore. I'll just move over to Myheritage and GedMatch. May have less hits, but the benefit is I can manage all my files on one login.

[chrisbonisa]

Anyone know of a fix for 23andme v5 not uploading? I have tried both the fixes for AncestryDNA, but they don't work. I have uploaded 2 other kits just fine. Just frustrating that they won't allow the newer versions (most likely FTDNA so they can get more money)

There isn't really a way to fix it since its just simply missing the data needed to do a good comparison and find matches on FTDNA, which is why they haven't made it compatible and they may not ever add it unfortunately. Even if they did, it would be so incomplete that you would have tons of matches missing.

The fix I made is only a small percentage different from the previous Ancestry.com results, so its not missing enough data to matter.

[chrisbonisa]

I've used the http://www.mapmy23.com/tools/ancestry_ftdna_fix.php tool several times for others but it's not working for one kit.
I've downloaded new raw data several times since the results came in December 22.

Hi Ann, I responded to your PM...

[ltd-jean-pull]

Anyone know of a fix for 23andme v5 not uploading? I have tried both the fixes for AncestryDNA, but they don't work. I have uploaded 2 other kits just fine. Just frustrating that they won't allow the newer versions (most likely FTDNA so they can get more money)

23andMe V5 is SO DIFFERENT from all previous versions that the only place you can upload it to is Gedmatch Genesis. The original version of Gedmatch won't accept it.

Your suggestion that FTDNA not accepting it because they want more money is untrue, unfair and frankly rather paranoid.

[loriloct18]

Anyone know of a fix for 23andme v5 not uploading? I have tried both the fixes for AncestryDNA, but they don't work. I have uploaded 2 other kits just fine. Just frustrating that they won't allow the newer versions (most likely FTDNA so they can get more money)

[KATM]

I've used the http://www.mapmy23.com/tools/ancestry_ftdna_fix.php tool several times for others but it's not working for one kit.
I've downloaded new raw data several times since the results came in December 22.

Did you contact Chris Bona, by private message on these forums, as he linked to on that page?

[Ann Hayley]

Unable to transfer Ancestry raw data to FTDNA

I've used the http://www.mapmy23.com/tools/ancestry_ftdna_fix.php tool several times for others but it's not working for one kit.
I've downloaded new raw data several times since the results came in December 22.

[Jim Barrett]

The main plus for Ancestry is the size of their tested database.

The main minus for Ancestry is the fact you must pay a subscription fee to see all of the information about your matches. You can buy several Family Finder kits for the cost of their annual subscription. And you have to use their contact system to try to reach your matches because Ancestry doesn't provide their email addresses.

[jimbirk]

Yes, you would think that Ancestry would have their messed up file fixed by now. FTDNA has much more important things to do than change their programs to support Ancestry's ever changing format.

Anyone trying to transfer Ancestry's new format would get many more matches if they bought a test from FTDNA, based on what I have seen from the recent transfers into my projects.

Ancestry doesn't care about fixing anything.

If they cared about DNA testers they would have a chromosome browser.

I tested first at FTDNA then at Ancestry.

At GEDmatch FTDNA kit says:

Number of SNPs utilized by GEDmatch template = 708934

Kit Tnnnnnn has approximately 66140 total matches with other kits.
Of these matches there are 13435 >= 7cM and 52705 < 7cM.

At GEDmatch Ancestry kit says:

Number of SNPs utilized by GEDmatch template = 460449

Kit Annnnnn has approximately 36269 total matches with other kits.
Of these matches there are 7995 >= 7cM and 28274 < 7cM.

Big difference with number of SNPs used and number of matches >= 7cM.

The main plus for Ancestry is the size of their tested database.

My top DNA match at FTDNA is my number 17 match at Ancestry.

Bad news is that not one of my top 16 at Ancestry is at GEDmatch.

[Jim Barrett]

Yes, you would think that Ancestry would have their messed up file fixed by now. FTDNA has much more important things to do than change their programs to support Ancestry's ever changing format.

Anyone trying to transfer Ancestry's new format would get many more matches if they bought a test from FTDNA, based on what I have seen from the recent transfers into my projects.

[chrisbonisa]

The tool at http://www.mapmy23.com/tools/ancestry_ftdna_fix.php worked for my kit. Thanks very much.

Wow, I can't believe they still haven't fixed this! But I am glad the tool is helping those in need! Merry Christmas!

[scanner51]

The tool at http://www.mapmy23.com/tools/ancestry_ftdna_fix.php worked for my kit. Thanks very much.