New My Origins Results

[wombat]

Based on my new and old results above, I conclude that the new "East" European boundary was enlarged, taking former "Western and Central" European area, as well as encompassing geography further north and east. Conversely, I also believe the old "Southern" European boundary was enlarged, at the expense of the former "Eastern" European boundary, to become the new "Southeast" European category.

therefore:

...my old 58% "Eastern" expanded to encompass former "Central" geography (+~15%), further expanded to encompass former "Finland and Northern Siberia" geography (+~5%), but also contracted (-~4%) with geography becoming part of the new expanded "Southeast" boundary category.

...my old 16% "Southern" expanded north and east to encompass former "Eastern" geography (+~4%), and further expanded to encompass former "Asia Minor" (Anatolian) geography (~+3%).

yes from what I have been seeing, that generally seems to be how it's working

[wombat]

"my OLD Origins":
Eastern Europe 58%
Southern Europe 16%
Western & Central Europe 16%
Finland & Northern Siberia 6%
Asia Minor 3%


"my NEW Origins":
East Europe 75%
Southeast Europe 23%

and some trace rubbish.

The new numbers make much more sense to me, as my mother is Polish and father is Slovak. There is some "colour" to my father's family, presumably southeastern influence.

both sets of #s actually make sense for you if you understand what the categories mean (Geno 2.0 NG shows you modern references and you get an idea what the ratios for various regions were supposed to be and why so your old results actually made sense for Polish plus a bit of Slovakian too)

[wombat]

Hi, since this is a very low percentage for my mom that is why I am questioning it. I have traced my mom's Hungarian ancestors to the 1700's and none were Jewish. Also if there was any it would lean more towards Ashkenazic instead of Sephardic in Hungary from what I have learned about it. I am sure there will be changes to the My Origins in the future and the percentages will change once again. I appreciate your reply though.

Maybe it somehow mistook some excess ancient farmer genes in your Hungarian background compared to the base Eastern European sample and someone decided to call it Sephardic instead of Iberian or Southeast European? Just a wild forced guess.

Although maybe more likely is that it's hard to pick out Sephardic and they also do share ancestry with Ashkenazi just not some of the bottleneck mutations but it might be possibly easy to mix up the two and it got tricked in your case by some quirk in the little bits you inherited and didn't inherit.

[hlascarlet]

Really strange origins

Instead he got some native south American and some traces of Oceanic.

Yes, me too, S.American and Oceanic!! That's crazy! I wonder how many people got that thrown in?? Sounds like a contamination problem to me!

[hlascarlet]

Where's my OLD results

Just looking at my new Origins results and they don't make any sense. Where can I find my old results to compare??
These are my new results:
British Isles 78%
Southeast Europe 18%
Scandinavia 3%

Where are my German roots and what's up with this SE Europe?? My true origins are nearly 50% German and the rest British Isles. My father is 50% German and 50% British Isles. I also have German and British Isles on my mother's side. That's it. I may have a trace of Scandinavian which is correct, but I certainly am not 18% SE European!!

[Chrisinhouston]

The Low Countries are nearly indistinguishable from Great Britain genetically (Northern Germany is extremely similar also), so it's no surprise British Isles shows up.

Thanks, then it make more sense.

[B. Gibson]

New My Origins Results

I first tested at FTDNA in 2012, so new MyOrigins is my third set of ethnic estimates from FTDNA. None have been been right or useful for genealogy.

Old My Origins (Approx.)
37% British (way too little)
31% Western Europe (little too high)
29% Scandinavia (No way)
2% Asia Minor
1% NO CALL (Should have been African)

New My Origins
73% West and Central Europe (Huh??)
22% British Isles (you've got to be kidding)
4% Iberia (reasonable for someone who's primarily Brit/Irish)
<2% African (Correct)

My Ancestry results for comparison
44% Great Britain plus 17% Ireland = 61%
27% Europe West
5% Iberian Peninsula
4% Scandinavia
1% African
< 1% Finland/Northwest Russia
< 1% Middle East

I've read all the descriptions of ethnic regions for the New MyOrigins, but what I'm not seeing is a reasonable time frame for these newest results. My "Ancient Origins" results are a nice curiosity bit, but I expected much better for New MyOrigins after waiting so long for this update.

[MeliAlexander]

A bit more accurate...

At least the updated version of myOrigins corresponds a bit better with my genealogy research. For example, the original findings showed 10% Scandinavia (I did find at least one generation in Sweden) but 0% British Isles (which kind of freaked me out because I legit thought my maternal grandmother was a completely different person...for about 5 minutes!!!).

The only concern I have with the new findings is the trace element of Oceania. Any thoughts?

And yes, I understand a lot about ancestry and how places were conquered throughout history. There are several papers about ancestry found in https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed. The British DNA papers are of particular interest because it was a pure melting pot

[Kurgan]

Based on my new and old results above, I conclude that the new "East" European boundary was enlarged, taking former "Western and Central" European area, as well as encompassing geography further north and east. Conversely, I also believe the old "Southern" European boundary was enlarged, at the expense of the former "Eastern" European boundary, to become the new "Southeast" European category.

therefore:

...my old 58% "Eastern" expanded to encompass former "Central" geography (+~15%), further expanded to encompass former "Finland and Northern Siberia" geography (+~5%), but also contracted (-~4%) with geography becoming part of the new expanded "Southeast" boundary category.

...my old 16% "Southern" expanded north and east to encompass former "Eastern" geography (+~4%), and further expanded to encompass former "Asia Minor" (Anatolian) geography (~+3%).

[cinnamon girl]

Old MyOrigins:

49% Southern European
30% Native American
11% Northeast Asia
6% African (5% West Africa, 1% East Central Africa)
5% Central Asia

New MyOrigins:

46% New World (North & Central America 46%; S. America 3%)
32% European (29% Iberian; 3% West & Central Europe)
17% Middle Eastern (13% Asia Minor; 4% N. Africa)
3% West Africa
<2% East Central Africa
<2% Siberia

??

[Kurgan]

"my OLD Origins":
Eastern Europe 58%
Southern Europe 16%
Western & Central Europe 16%
Finland & Northern Siberia 6%
Asia Minor 3%


"my NEW Origins":
East Europe 75%
Southeast Europe 23%

and some trace rubbish.

The new numbers make much more sense to me, as my mother is Polish and father is Slovak. There is some "colour" to my father's family, presumably southeastern influence.

[Matt Jivin]

ashkenazi/sephardic mixup

While the update now detects my small percentage of Jewish heritage it shows it as Sephardic which i believe is incorrect. Two other DNA tests at 23andme and Ancestry show this as Ashkenazi and my genealogy research backs that up by showing our Jewish ancestors were eastern European, not from the Iberian peninsula. Also, my Jewish heritage comes from my direct maternal line and the haplogroup for that line is N9a3. Research suggests that the reason we have this haplogroup as caucasians (when most people with N9a3 are Asian) is the result of the union of an east Asian woman and an Ashkenazi male.

[NCroots]

I am still puzzled at nothing showing from the Benelux region of Western Europe..

The Low Countries are nearly indistinguishable from Great Britain genetically (Northern Germany is extremely similar also), so it's no surprise British Isles shows up.

[elhjr32609]

New My Origins results

Sephardic is probably from Hungarian ancestry.

Hi, since this is a very low percentage for my mom that is why I am questioning it. I have traced my mom's Hungarian ancestors to the 1700's and none were Jewish. Also if there was any it would lean more towards Ashkenazic instead of Sephardic in Hungary from what I have learned about it. I am sure there will be changes to the My Origins in the future and the percentages will change once again. I appreciate your reply though.

[Chrisinhouston]

The FTDNA My Origins area is one that I never really felt was accurate for me and this was true with the earlier version as well as this newer one. I have a well sourced family tree going back 8-12 generations in all branches it shows that I am roughly:

37.5% British Isles (Mostly British/Irish)
25% Western European (Belgium/Luxembourg)
25% Scandinavian (Swedish)
12.5 Japanese

I failed to make a screen shot of the old breakdown but saved an image of the map. While I agreed with some of it such as the British Isles and Asian it did not suggest anything from the Benelux region of western Europe and showed Norway and not Sweden.

Old Results based on the map and my memory:
88% European (the breakdown included mostly an even split of British Isles and Norway with less than a 3% Eastern European)
12% East Asian

Today's results show some changes that are just additional breakdowns but also some that make no sense.

New Results:
86% European with a breakdown of 79% British Isles and 7% Finland
12% Northeast Asian
<2% East Europe
<2% Asia Minor

I am still puzzled at nothing showing from the Benelux region of Western Europe. The old map suggested Norway/Scandinavian and the new one suggests Finland only. The Asian remains unchanged and I don't really consider anything as low as <2% to mean much. It is possible that my Swedish ancestors were originally migrants from Finland. There is a group known as the Forest Finns who left Finland in the 13th-14th centuries and settled in Sweden where they cleared forest for farmland.