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  • #31
    Originally posted by Anizio View Post
    I just used it as a generic term since on the map the area that FTDNA highlights most of "East Europe" is roughly the greater Galicia area the traditional homeland of the Ruthenenians before they were assimilated by the Ukrainians, Poles, etc.

    I also study ethncities and populations over time, but thats separate from DNA stuff. Basically I can find no basis in my tree for the addition of Eastern European and British DNA, and I am positive it is overstating the British DNA at the very least.
    Ah, I see. Mine shows that as well, which makes sense for me. I hope you are able to figure yours out!

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    • #32
      Pending Results

      All of my people are done except for my aunt. Her's is "pending". Anyone else still waiting as of noon, April 5th?

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      • #33
        I had 35% Scandinavian and now 0%....

        It looks like the results are now closer to what ancestry.com shows but I'm now more confused than ever.

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        • #34
          My new origins percentages have changed slightly. I used to be 100% European with 57% West/Central Europe and 43% Scandinavia. Now I'm 99% European with 60% West/Central Europe and 32% Scandinavia and 5% East European (? where that came from) and Finland less than 2% (I do have a Finnish Ancestor) My brother's changed the most from 100% European (about 75/25 percent breakdown in the same regions that I had previously. Now he has 96% European with 66% West/Central Europe, 30% Scandinavia, less than 2% each for Finnish and East European. Then he has 0% for the New World with less than 2% South America (? but I think it's noise) and 0% Central/South Asian with less than 2% again in Oceania (? again probably noise) Those two traces aren't even considered in the overall percentages. But it basically mean not much has really changed from the very first ethnic test which gave us both pretty much the same European background, only with the difference of having the trace areas called + or - margin or error.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Sue Collins View Post
            All of my people are done except for my aunt. Her's is "pending". Anyone else still waiting as of noon, April 5th?
            Still waiting. I think the "check back in 24 hours" resets every time you check.

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            • #36
              A whole lot of British and Noise

              Wow...where do I start?
              This new algorithm shows me as very British: 24% more than my parents combined! On paper I'm approximately 62% British Isles, 23andme reported 57% and I don't recall myOrigins 1.0 but it was somewhere between 40-60. Now I'm 81% along with 12% Western/Central European.

              The numbers just don't add up when you look at my family. If I didn't know better, I even might go as far as to question my paternity since my dad shows 29% Scandinavian and 20% Iberian- I am zero for both.

              I got a bunch of fun "noise" for the last 7% including <2% East Central African, Finland, Sephardic, Oceania & Eastern European. Of course only Eastern European and Finland are reflected in my parents.

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              • #37
                Curious about New My Origins

                Hi all

                I'm very curious about how the whole thing works. It would be good if there were a guide. My ethnic makeup has changed substantially. I understand somewhat how this happens as your databases change, your markers change, clusters change etc.

                However my fudamental question is, given that the British Isles population arrived there over various waves and many thousands of years, what does the British component mean. I thought the My Origins would ultimately be able to work out where we have genetic matches along the migration roots to the British Isles. That is, did some of us come through Scandinavia or ancient routes from Iberian peninsula

                Would ike to know if there is a guide on the methdodology to know what the British Isles component acutally means. Does it relate to shared genes from other contemporaneous British people - ie a cluster of who is there now - or does it incorporate markers to show where we actually came from

                Specifically I am interested in the big change in percentage between Scandinavia and British Isles this time round

                cheers Anon

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by greerpalmer View Post
                  Wow...where do I start?
                  This new algorithm shows me as very British: 24% more than my parents combined! On paper I'm approximately 62% British Isles, 23andme reported 57% and I don't recall myOrigins 1.0 but it was somewhere between 40-60. Now I'm 81% along with 12% Western/Central European.

                  The numbers just don't add up when you look at my family. If I didn't know better, I even might go as far as to question my paternity since my dad shows 29% Scandinavian and 20% Iberian- I am zero for both.

                  I got a bunch of fun "noise" for the last 7% including <2% East Central African, Finland, Sephardic, Oceania & Eastern European. Of course only Eastern European and Finland are reflected in my parents.
                  The noise is to be expected...fact is its not an exact science, its about interpreting based on sample populations. If they tested the whole world, they give us all more accurate number. Its an evolving field.

                  In terms of the Britishness, on one hand it is entirely possible for you to be more "British" than both of your parents. Remember you are not a combination of both of them entirely, you are a combination of half of each of them....so in theory you could have inherited their Britishness without inheriting their non-Britishness. BUT on the other hand, I am seeing enough skewed results (including my own, a Central Italian for over 400 years of history suddenly showing 6% British DNA) to conclude that for some reason British is being interpreted as an origin way more often than it should.

                  This is not unprecedented. In the old FTDNA MyOrigins, all Italians showed approximately 1/3 of their Italian DNA as being from "Asia Minor" - and this has entirely disappeared from the new MyOrigins. its all about how they interpret, and clearly they fixed some problems and created others.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by DNA_Anon View Post
                    Hi all

                    Specifically I am interested in the big change in percentage between Scandinavia and British Isles this time round

                    cheers Anon
                    Your question mirrors a lot of peoples, including mine. A lot of people seem to suddenly have an increase of British Isles DNA results in their new MyOrigins.

                    My answer is, this is a flaw in their interpretation model. People who should have no British, and had no British before suddenly do. And people who had British have their British DNA % increased now. This might be brushed aside for some Americans/colonials, but Europeans who know their genetic history through genealogy combined with DNA matches have no valid explanation for this. If anything British people should be showing more non-British DNA since, as you said, they are a highly mixed people.

                    My explanation is that this is a mistake they will need to fix. Hopefully they are paying attention. The last interpretation result error I found, giving Italians Asia Minor DNA is massive amounts, took them years to address and until they fixed it they never even acknowledged it as a flaw. They just made excuses or ignored it.

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                    • #40
                      My DNA results in myOrigins 2.0 are WAY OFF

                      I just looked at my DNA results in myOrigins 2.0 and they are so inaccurate.

                      For the record, myOrigins 2.0 says that my DNA is 84% West European, 15% Scandinavian, 2% Central Asian.

                      It is true that I have West European blood, and I believe the Scandinavian and Central Asian are possible and wouldn't necessarily rule them out. But I also have a substantial amount of Scottish and Welsh blood from both my parents; especially my mother, who has at least 40-50% Scottish and Welsh blood.

                      Yet myOrigins 2.0 says I have 0% British Isles blood.

                      I know for a fact this is untrue.

                      I did get these DNA results from uploading a text file of my DNA results from Ancestry.com to Family Tree DNA about a year ago. I remember the DNA results from the previous version of myOrigins were more accurate then than they are now. Do these types of DNA data tend to be less accurate than DNA obtained from actual body fluids?

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                      • #41
                        On FTDNA I did have 35% Scandinavian and 34% British Isles as my top two. I now have 0% Scandinavian and 80% British Isles.

                        On Ancestry I have.
                        Great Britain 39%
                        Europe West 21%
                        Scandinavia 19%
                        Ireland 11%
                        Iberian Peninsula 8%
                        Italy/Greece 1%
                        Europe East < 1%

                        23&me is different also
                        Northwestern European
                        95.0%
                        British & Irish
                        56.5%
                        French & German
                        11.1%
                        Scandinavian
                        6.1%
                        Broadly Northwestern European
                        21.3%
                        Southern European
                        2.5%
                        Iberian
                        0.3%
                        Broadly Southern European
                        2.2%
                        Eastern European
                        0.2%

                        I have came to the conclusion they are all guessing.
                        Last edited by LarryBurford; 5 April 2017, 09:44 PM.

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                        • #42
                          My new MyOrigins results are bizarre. I really don't get where the Southwest Europe is coming from.

                          Three of my four grandparents are 100% German and primarily from Pomerania and Lower Saxony.

                          British Isles 30%
                          East Europe 10%
                          Southeast Europe 17%
                          West and Central Europe 43%

                          Euro East used to be 40% and now that's switched to Southeast Europe? I can understand differences in whether Pomerania is considered Euro East or West/Central Europe on different tests but Southeast Europe seems wrong unless it's looking at well over 1000 years ago.

                          On Ancestry, I have 15% Scandinavian which it seems like many people from Northern Germany have. But SE Europe is strange since neither AncestryDNA nor 23 & Me show that I have any Southeastern European ancestry.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Anizio View Post
                            ...In terms of the Britishness, on one hand it is entirely possible for you to be more "British" than both of your parents...
                            GreerPalmer clearly said that he is listed as being more British than both his parents combined. Clearly, something is wrong.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Frank Kelch View Post
                              GreerPalmer clearly said that he is listed as being more British than both his parents combined. Clearly, something is wrong.
                              I agree something is wrong since most people are complaining about over representation of British DNA in their results, but he did not explain how much more, and forgets its not an exact science. If his parents were hypothetically 40% each, and he got 82% I'd call that within the margin of error....

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                              • #45
                                British Isles going down? Maybe . . .

                                [QUOTE=Anizio;437918] A lot of people seem to suddenly have an increase of British Isles DNA results in their new MyOrigins.

                                My answer is, this is a flaw in their interpretation model. People who should have no British, and had no British before suddenly do. And people who had British have their British DNA % increased now. QUOTE]

                                I administer both of my grandparents accounts. Both actually went DOWN rather significantly in British Isles. Their Western European % went way up.

                                Also, both had minor (20% or less) amounts of Southern Europe previously. Now, Grandpa has 2% Southeast Europe (Balkans?) and Grandma has 16% Iberian.

                                I'm wondering if the some of the British actually went to the Iberian now. I've heard there is a little it of Gaelic crossover there.

                                But they seem to be in the minority in seeing BI% go down.

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