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  • #16
    What a difference a day makes...

    Honestly, I'm very much disappointed with the myOrigins 2.0 results. My BI has decreased from 42% to 6%, my 6% Asia Minor have disappeared completely, and it's just one big bulk of Middle and Eastern Europe. A few months ago I wouldn't have argued about that, but DNA leads me now to the US and from there to Scottland and Ireland �� 6% is a bit meagre, I would have expected about 15-35%.

    Same with my husband's results, previously almost evenly split among Scandinavian, BI, Southern Europe and EE, now ALL of Skandinavia gone and added to BI (makes absolutely no sense) - except for the added population near Hungary/Romania. Other than that, GEDmatch's admixtures will definitely give you a "better" result, if you have some knowledge of your roots/ethnicity.
    Last edited by SwabianGirl; 4 April 2017, 06:01 PM. Reason: Punctuation

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    • #17
      my grandma now got 41% new world on this new update

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      • #18
        Science: The Danes are half British

        "Denmark presented genomic affinity with primarily neighboring countries with overall resemblance of decreasing weight from Britain, Sweden, Norway, Germany and France".

        That was a conclusion in a scientific paper in 2016 after a study involving high school students who knew who their four grandparents were. They were primarily from high schools in the first and second city, Copenhagen and Aarhus.

        The Danes are almost half British, the paper said.
        http://www.genetics.org/content/gene...89241.full.pdf

        I guess this paper is behind yesterday's remarkable change in many Dane's origin. One person's origin - a person with ancestors from only one county in Denmark since the 1600's - shows this.

        myOrigin Before/Now in %: Scandinavia 68/15, Western Central Europe 32/0, British Isles 0/77, East Europe 0/6 and Finland 0/less than 2 percent.

        (It's the other way around. The British are very much descendants of invaders from Scandinavia)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Yde View Post
          That was a conclusion in a scientific paper in 2016 after a study involving high school students who knew who their four grandparents were. They were primarily from high schools in the first and second city, Copenhagen and Aarhus.
          I have my doubts that a group of teenagers would be knowledgable about their genealogy, so the study design seems flawed to me.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by SwabianGirl View Post
            Honestly, I'm very much disappointed with the myOrigins 2.0 results. My BI has decreased from 42% to 6%, my 6% Asia Minor have disappeared completely, and it's just one big bulk of Middle and Eastern Europe. A few months ago I wouldn't have argued about that, but DNA leads me now to the US and from there to Scottland and Ireland �� 6% is a bit meagre, I would have expected about 15-35%.

            Same with my husband's results, previously almost evenly split among Scandinavian, BI, Southern Europe and EE, now ALL of Skandinavia gone and added to BI (makes absolutely no sense) - except for the added population near Hungary/Romania. Other than that, GEDmatch's admixtures will definitely give you a "better" result, if you have some knowledge of your roots/ethnicity.
            I don't know your ancestry, but even for people born and bred in the British Isles 100% British Isles is very rare. The Brits are mongrels... the genetic end of the line for DNA that has made its way for thousands of years from Africa via the Middle East.

            I think there is considerable overlap between British Isles and Western and Central Europe under the old Origins model and also the new one (hence why I said it had "shuffled around" in my post).

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            • #21
              different results

              my old my origins had me 44 asia minor only asia minor and 39 western and central europe,and 17 percent scandinavia.now im 43 asia minor 12 percent southeast europe,23 british isles and 22 scandinavia.

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              • #22
                Before, I was 100% European (so what about my mtDNA J haplogroup, supposedly Middle Eastern) and the breakdown was 63% British Isles, 32% Western & Central Europe, 5% Finland & Northern Siberia.

                Now I'm 96% European, i.e. 52% British Isles, 33% Scandinavian, 11% Iberian, and Trace Results West Middle East <2%.

                As usual, more questions than answers.

                Harry

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                • #23
                  My old result: Eastern Europe - 74%, 18% Western & Central Europe, 2% Finland & Northern Siberia and 6% Jews.

                  Currently: 96% Eastern Europe and 4% from various groups: Jews, Southern Europe, Central Asia and North and Central America.

                  My dad old score: 80% Eastern Europe, 20% Western & Central Europe.

                  My father new score: 100% Eastern Europe.

                  My grandfather old result:86 % Eastern Europe, 8% Southern Europe and 6% Finland & Northern Siberia.

                  My grandfather new score: 99% Eastern Europe and 1% from various populations: Finland and Siberia

                  As for me, the new algorithm is a joke. The results are not specific to the old, but it is a completely different story. I understand differences in the level of statistical error or similar populations (Finland, Siberia and North America), but the difference of 20% raises a lot of doubts for me as a scientist. We need to wait for methodological clarification from FMT DNA and reference populations.

                  My old results basically corresponded to my paper knowledge. The new ones are detached for me.

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                  • #24
                    Italian Results

                    It is definitely better.

                    I complained a lot to FTDNA about how their results came up for Italians, and it has clearly changed. It has improved...but its still a bit odd.

                    My family has been living in small Italian villages for centuries, so there is no case of being an American or Canadian and not knowing an ancestor.

                    My old results were

                    24% Asia Minor
                    64% Southern Europe
                    12% Western Europe

                    The Asia Minor was clearly off, and the 12% was clearly Germanic from my family in northern Italy.

                    But now the results are

                    75% Southern Europe
                    13% Western/Central Europe
                    6% East Europe
                    and 4% British Isles.

                    So while it is an improvement, and Asia Minor is gone, suddenly there is British and Ruthenian thrown in. I am more than a bit skeptical. I suspect in order to make these tests more accurate there needs to be more testing of Europeans. Right now the heavy American/colonial/British focus of DNA testing is probably not helping the ethnic origins element.

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                    • #25
                      Best to Worst

                      I hate to criticize FTDNA, but they went from best match to my ancestry (75% German, 25% English) to the worst. They now have me 0% Central European(Germany, France) and 67% England These results are absolutely trash. So now the best results to my actual ancestry are at GenMatch.

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                      • #26
                        Hi, all! I'm a newbie to the forum and tested in 2014. Originally, my results showed that I'm 96% Central Euro, 3% Central Asian and 1% Central African. Now, I'm showing 84% West and Central Europe, 6% British Isles, 5% Southeast Europe and 3% Central and South Asia, with trace amounts of South Central Africa and North and Central America. The only problem with this is that my paternal grandfather was of Portuguese descent (and whose parents immigrated from Madeira) and I show no Iberian with the FTDNA test, when at 23andMe I show 15% Southern European (and I suspect that my 5% Broadly Euro there could be lumped with Southern Europe). I'm also confused by how my British Isles percentage is so low, given that at 23andMe, that represents my biggest percentage at 36.5% (which is more than likely from my maternal grandmother and probably partially my maternal grandfather)?

                        So, long story short...Can anyone help me understand why, with one full grandparent being of Southern European descent, FTDNA hasn't detected any Iberian in my DNA? Or why my British Isles percentage is so low, when at 23andMe it's huge? Or why my percentages have varied so widely? Or how I got clustered with Southeast Europeans? I apologize for all of the questions, but I am very confused and am in need of input from someone who is far more experienced in this area. If any of you would be willing and able to provide assistance, it would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
                        Last edited by ebenoodt23; 5 April 2017, 11:02 AM.

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                        • #27
                          I wish I had saved my original results! The new results are pretty different than the first ones. They completely took away my Western European, and I know for a fact I am German. Unless I'm not... Considering I just recently found out I am part Rusyn after believing I was Hungarian my whole life, anything is possible.

                          Here are my results:


                          East Central Africa < 2%
                          Central Asia < 2%
                          Siberia < 2%
                          West Middle East < 2%
                          European 97%
                          British Isles 33%
                          East Europe 48%
                          Finland 5%
                          Southeast Europe 11%

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Kcold56 View Post
                            I wish I had saved my original results! The new results are pretty different than the first ones. They completely took away my Western European, and I know for a fact I am German. Unless I'm not... Considering I just recently found out I am part Rusyn after believing I was Hungarian my whole life, anything is possible.

                            Here are my results:


                            East Central Africa < 2%
                            Central Asia < 2%
                            Siberia < 2%
                            West Middle East < 2%
                            European 97%
                            British Isles 33%
                            East Europe 48%
                            Finland 5%
                            Southeast Europe 11%
                            Eastern Europe is at 48%....sounds to me like you might be Polish. Which would make sense if you thought you were German because a lot of Poles were assimilated over the centuries.


                            Overall though what I am noticing from a lot of peoples results is the amount of British DNA detected is going up. Which I think is a mistake, ie. I have NO British heritage no matter how far I go back.

                            I actually think the issue is Brits are a mixed race and therefore include a lot of non-British DNA, but the interpretation of FTDNA is reversing that and applying British DNA to people who do not have it....

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Anizio View Post
                              So while it is an improvement, and Asia Minor is gone, suddenly there is British and Ruthenian thrown in.
                              Where do you see the Ruthenian?

                              Also, you might be right about the Polish. I have more digging to do, I guess!

                              My British Isles definitely went up quite a bit, too.
                              Last edited by GB620; 5 April 2017, 11:40 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Kcold56 View Post
                                Where do you see the Ruthenian?
                                I just used it as a generic term since on the map the area that FTDNA highlights most of "East Europe" is roughly the greater Galicia area the traditional homeland of the Ruthenenians before they were assimilated by the Ukrainians, Poles, etc.

                                I also study ethncities and populations over time, but thats separate from DNA stuff. Basically I can find no basis in my tree for the addition of Eastern European and British DNA, and I am positive it is overstating the British DNA at the very least.

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