New My Origins Results

[DaveInGreece]

You know that Viking raiders brought back English slaves right?

Yes, I'm very aware that Vikings settled in Britain and Ireland and that British and Irish people ended up in Scandinavia (sometimes willingly, sometimes not). People with my ancestry expect to be assigned some "Scandinavian" - as I said in my previous posts (you bothered to read them, right?) - but only a few per cent at most. I've now got 22% "Scandinavian". Nearly a quarter. My ancestry isn't even from any of the areas of Britain and Ireland with a known history of interaction with the Vikings. My brother and sister only get a couple of per cent "Scandinavian". I used to get just a couple of per cent. Everywhere else I get just a couple of per cent. Everywhere except My Origins v2 assigns me a small amount of Scandinavian which is in line with the normal profile of someone with British and Irish ancestry. MyOrigins v2 now assigns me almost a quarter "Scandinavian" whereas many people with Swedish or Norwegian grandparents are now being assigned zero Scandinavian (they got the correct results on v1, and get the correct results everywhere else).

Learn the history of human migrations and changing borders

You read my comments, right? You know, the comments (which you quoted) in which I mentioned Angles, Saxons, Normans and Vikings? The comments in which I mentioned that it's normal for people of British/Irish ancestry to have "quite a lot of 'West and Central Europe' (Anglo, Saxon and Norman ancestry) and a small amount of 'Scandinavian' (Viking ancestry)." Do I sound like someone who doesn't know about migrations? How the heck can you read the words Angle, Saxon, Norman and Viking in one sentence and then tell me that I need to learn about migrations?

But since you're in a teaching mood, explain this to me:

My 22% "Scandinavian" is minor compared to the 29% "Iberian" I now get (here and only here). What migration explains how a person with British/Irish ancestry gets assigned almost a third "Iberian"? At which point in history did "changing borders" make English people genetically "Spanish"?

And after you rewrite history to explain that to me, try explaining the genetics. How can I have 29% "Iberian" when my brother and sister (both totally confirmed as being full siblings) don't have a trace of anything from southern Europe? I can clarify that I've used visual phasing and chromosome mapping so I know there's nothing at all weird about me inheriting more than them from one grandparent. Cousins on all sides of the family have been tested, and they show no southern European of any sort. I can send you my chromosome map if you want to work out which 29% of me matches neither of my siblings and none of my cousins (I should warn you that we're up to around 40-50 testers now, so it's not going to be quick). And don't forget to look for that 22% Scandinavian while you're at it.

[keigh]

I don't know whether the ethnic estimate differences between here at FTDNA or at Ancestry are of much importance, to me at least. Basically they both say that I'm either 100% or 99% European, and that pretty much reflects my paper trail. I'm European.

[Daragon36]

This algorithm has a big problem with Scandinavian! My ancestry is all British/Irish. My old My Origins results were similar to the results from other tests and were totally typical for a British person: a lot of "British Isles", quite a lot of "West and Central Europe" (Anglo, Saxon and Norman ancestry) and a small amount of "Scandinavian" (Viking ancestry). Now I've jumped up to 22% Scandinavian!

You know that Viking raiders brought back English slaves right? The DNA results probably are correct. Not only that, there were people who would immigrate to Scandinavia to find jobs and opportunity as well. Learn the history of human migrations and changing borders. Nations themselves are a fairly new thing, your DNA is not defined by newly created borders.
My results are actually more accurate than the old results, and match my Ancestry results pretty close.

[willy]

NEW Myorigin FTDNA = VERY BAD RESULTS

FTDNA went from best match to the worst YES correct cause my 7% Ashkenazi is transformed in Iberian Italian - Greek ? That 's completely wrong ???

I hate to criticize FTDNA, but they went from best match to my ancestry (75% German, 25% English) to the worst. They now have me 0% Central European(Germany, France) and 67% England These results are absolutely trash. So now the best results to my actual ancestry are at GenMatch.

[DaveInGreece]

Before I was 93 % Scandinavian and 3 % British... now I am 58 % Scandinavian and 38 % British. I can say this new logaritm is completely wrong! I'v done my family tree by church records and have 8 generations complete line back - all swedes, no British what so ever. So the thought that I should be 38 % British is just wrong! You had it right in the first place. This is not credible.

This algorithm has a big problem with Scandinavian! My ancestry is all British/Irish. My old My Origins results were similar to the results from other tests and were totally typical for a British person: a lot of "British Isles", quite a lot of "West and Central Europe" (Anglo, Saxon and Norman ancestry) and a small amount of "Scandinavian" (Viking ancestry). Now I've jumped up to 22% Scandinavian!

[falkjohan]

Wrong!

Before I was 93 % Scandinavian and 3 % British... now I am 58 % Scandinavian and 38 % British. I can say this new logaritm is completely wrong! I'v done my family tree by church records and have 8 generations complete line back - all swedes, no British what so ever. So the thought that I should be 38 % British is just wrong! You had it right in the first place. This is not credible.

[josh w.]

very cool
best regards
adam

There are also modern day priests in Nuevo Leon who have Sephardic origins----from a dissertation about the region from Hebrew University

[kingjohn]

very cool

very cool
best regards
adam

[josh w.]

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups...project/photos

felix in the comments say it is 20%
of the mexicans score some sefhardic and high in nuevo leon
founders {surnames}
regards
Adam

i truly believe some of the conquistadors had sefhardic dna to some extent .....

I have converso matches from Nuevo Leon. An ancestor was a conquistador---Garza (de la Garza)

[kingjohn]

send letter to ftdna

send letter to ftdna ask them
about this

https://www.familytreedna.com/contact.aspx

regards
Adam

[CatBend]

Confused about changes

Hello, The new results for the origins is very confusing--I administer several people:

My results before and after were

97% European 100% European
76% British Isles 53% British Isles
12% Scandinavian 0% Scandinavian
8% Eastern Europe 0% Eastern Europe
1% Western Europe 47% Western and Central Europe
3% North Africa <2% North Africa

The older results made more sense to me because my GG Grandfather was from Gibraltar and his ancestors were from Spain, Italy and Portugal.

My Mothers results before and after are close:
100% European 100% European
67% West and Cental Europe 67% West and Central Europe
29% British Isles 32% British Isles
4% Finland/N Siberia 0% Finland/N Siberia
0% Eastern Europe <2% eastern Europe

My daughter results before and after are

95% European both before and after
45% British Isles 31% British Isles
42% West and Central Europe 64% West and CEntral Europe
8% Eastern Europe 0% Eastern Europe
2% Asia Minor 0% Asia Minor
2% North Africa <2% North Africa
0% Sephardic Jew 5% Sephardic Jew

There seems to be huge changes which I cannot explain. In my results, although I have a huge Spanish, Portuguese, Italian line--it has disappeared--but I know that it exists--so where is it. My daughter has Sephardic Jew, which would make sense since my roots on my fathers side are from Spain/Portugual--the area of the Sephardic jews. However, it does not show up in mine

So I am not sure what to put my faith in now, the results before, the results after-or that the results do mean anything--they are just a guess.

[kingjohn]

a good example for the sefhardic dna

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_de_Carvajal_y_de_la_Cueva

he was from family of conversos this conquistador

https://tshaonline.org/sites/default/files/images/handbook/CC/carvajal-luis.jpg

and this person https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzal...nez_de_Quesada
conquistadors of colombia his parents converted to catholic faith
regards
Adam

[kingjohn]

mexico dna project

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/genealogyof-mexico-dna-project/photos

felix in the comments say it is 20%
of the mexicans score some sefhardic and high in nuevo leon
founders {surnames}
regards
Adam

i truly believe some of the conquistadors had sefhardic dna to some extent .....

[khazaria]

if your hertige is mexican or latin american the sefhardic is very logical
[...] to latin america there was migration of sefhardics

Indeed. And it's parts of Vodoux's Southern European and North African scores that have been reinterpreted as Sephardic. Not her old Scandinavian score (that was presumably false anyway).

But I have learned that not all Latin Americans with small amounts of genuine Sephardic ancestry score an amount of Sephardi in MyOrigins 2.0. Some do score 0% Sephardi even though they have up to 1% or 2% verified by me through segment analysis.
Some of them score Ashkenazi instead, even though it is not Ashkenazi in its root.
And some score neither Ashkenazi nor Sephardi, but do have something else logical like a North African score.

[kingjohn]

if your hertige

if your hertige is mexican or latin american
the sefhardic is very logical
it is not logical in cyprus crete and lebanese christian
but to latin america there was migration of sefhardics
some of the conquistadors themselfs have some
i have matches with latin americans in gedmatch and ftdna my origins
in lin ewith my sefhardic grandfather ........