Gedmatch no longer accepting FTDNA kits

[ralphsharris]

Gedmatch no longer accepting FTDNA kits

Who is FTDNA to tell me where I can and can't put my DNA. The last I recall, I paid for it and it is my DNA. So I should be able to put it on which ever site I wish.

If this continues to be an issue, I will point everyone to Ancestry.com for their DNA test.

[Per Soderlund]

Text form GEDMatch at the upload page after login today 24 mar 2016:

" Family Tree DNA and GEDmatch jointly announce that we are in serious conversations regarding issues that have resulted in GEDmatch discontinuing uploads of FTDNA data. Both companies recognize the importance of these talks to their customers and are committed to quickly resolve differences. We regret any inconvenience that may have been caused and assure our users that our primary focus and efforts are geared toward your benefit.

We appreciate the overwhelming support GEDmatch users have expressed on public forums. "


" Raw DNA file Uploads

We are ready to receive FTDNA raw DNA files as soon as the new file format becomes available for download from the FTDNA site. "

https://www.gedmatch.com/login1.php

[Armando]

Talks between the companies seem to be going in the right direction. It looks like FTDNA is making some changes to the files they download. Here is the note on Gedmatch now:

Raw DNA file Uploads
We are ready to receive FTDNA raw DNA files as soon as the new file format becomes available for download from the FTDNA site.

If past history with FTDNA is any indicator the new file format will not be available for quite some time. They still haven't fixed a lot of other problems such as BAM file access, NatGeo Geno 2.0 NextGen transfers and tree placement, an updated myOrigins, and FMS matching.

[Per Soderlund]

Updated info at GedMatch site after login:

" Family Tree DNA and GEDmatch jointly announce that we are in serious conversations regarding issues that have resulted in GEDmatch discontinuing uploads of FTDNA data. Both companies recognize the importance of these talks to their customers and are committed to quickly resolve differences. We regret any inconvenience that may have been caused and assure our users that our primary focus and efforts are geared toward your benefit.

Note that existing 'F' (FTDNA) kit numbers on GEDmatch will be changed to 'T' followed by a random kit number. This will probably happen in the next few days. If you need to make copies of your results with the old kit numbers, please do so now.

Thank you for your support. "

[loobster]

Wow! A company that tells you when it is about to make a change, and lets you prepare for it.

[georgian1950]

So, was this about seeing which kits on haplogroup projects had Family Finder kits uploaded to GEDmatch? Where is the security problem. If a kit is found, the owner already consented on GEDmatch for others to look at the data.

This is shutting down a fruitful research angle for me.

Jack Wyatt

[Per Soderlund]

If past history with FTDNA is any indicator the new file format will not be available for quite some time. They still haven't fixed a lot of other problems such as BAM file access, NatGeo Geno 2.0 NextGen transfers and tree placement, an updated myOrigins, and FMS matching.

BAM files is now available again!

[glenswan]

BAM files available again

It least they started taking requests again. I got mine submitted late this afternoon. We will see how long it takes to actually have access to the BAM files!

[RMAC]

Waiting it out before I test any further

I did see this message today:
Note that existing 'F' (FTDNA) kit numbers on GEDmatch will be changed to 'T' followed by a random kit number. This will probably happen in the next few days. This change does not affect Ancestry or 23andMe kit numbers. If you need to make copies of your results with the old kit numbers, please do so now. Name and email information for matches will stay the same, and can be used to retain continuity in your records.
Thank you for your support.

But I am leery how long it will take and if the searches may not run as they did before. I am still a bit leery to test any more family members with FTDNA until they give the upload and I can see that it works. Until then, I will do business elsewhere. They sort of lost my trust pulling the rug out from under me and I am little afraid to jump back on again until they show they can be trusted.

I will admit, I am happy that they have agreed to do something, now to follow up those words with action!

[Doublemartini]

"Note that existing 'F' (FTDNA) kit numbers on GEDmatch will be changed to 'T' followed by a random kit number."

I'm not happy with this solution. In fact for me, it is not a solution. Having yet another set of kit numbers that bear no relation to FTDNAs numbering scheme, is very inconvenient and unnecessary, for those of us managing many kits.

I think people who agree to have their results posted on Gedmatch are being greatly inconvenienced for no good reason by some individuals.

[MikeP]

It least they started taking requests again. I got mine submitted late this afternoon. We will see how long it takes to actually have access to the BAM files!

Where do you make the request?

[MikeP]

It's under the download raw data button, not at the top level ... I've now requested one.

[lgmayka]

Where do you make the request?

"Please fill out a Contact Us Form request and choose the Big Y BAM Request category to activate your BAM file download."

[loobster]

What is a BAM file??

[Tenn4ever]

"Note that existing 'F' (FTDNA) kit numbers on GEDmatch will be changed to 'T' followed by a random kit number."

I'm not happy with this solution. In fact for me, it is not a solution. Having yet another set of kit numbers that bear no relation to FTDNAs numbering scheme, is very inconvenient and unnecessary, for those of us managing many kits.

I think people who agree to have their results posted on Gedmatch are being greatly inconvenienced for no good reason by some individuals.

On Gedmatch and I'm sure it's FTDNA's doing:

"Note that existing 'F' (FTDNA) kit numbers on GEDmatch will be changed to 'T' followed by a random kit number. This will probably happen in the next few days. This change does not affect Ancestry or 23andMe kit numbers. If you need to make copies of your results with the old kit numbers, please do so now. Name and email information for matches will stay the same, and can be used to retain continuity in your records.
Thank you for your support. "

I am so p&&&sd that I could scream. I have spent thousands of dollars with this company but not ONE MORE penny and I will advise everyone I know not to purchase from them. DNA work is very difficult and THEY have just made it much more difficult.