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  • R1b SNP sale

    FTDNA has sale on at 79$ for R1b SNP pack.

    Includes 61 SNPs on the Haplotree:

    M343, L278, P297, M269, L23, L51, P310, P311, P312, L21, DF21, M222, Z255, Z253, L513, L371, CTS3386, CTS4466, CTS1751, Z195, SRY2627, Z295, U152, L2, Z49, Z367, PF6610, CTS5689, Z36, Z225, DF19, CTS11567, F2691, CTS10429, U106, Z381, L48, Z9, L47, Z156, Z18, CTS4528, PF6714, PF7589, PF3252, CTS7763, Z1862, CTS6937, F2863, M73, V88, L238, DF99, L389, M335, DF13, DF63, DF95, DF49, S11601, Z17

    Includes 79 SNPs not on the Haplotree:

    BY2895, A6454, BY2896, A1773, A2150, A274, A4670, A517, BY2823, BY2868, BY575, CTS11994, CTS5330, DF110, DF17, DF41, DF81, DF83, DF88, DF90, FGC10516, FGC11134, FGC13620, FGC13780, FGC20761, FGC22501, FGC396, FGC5301, FGC5336, FGC5338, FGC5344, FGC5345, FGC5351, FGC5354, FGC5356, FGC5367, FGC5373, FGC5494, FGC5798, L1335, L277, L408, L584, L617, L881, M1994, MC14, PF331, PF6658, PF7562, PF7600, S1026, S1051, S11493, S12025, S1567, S16264, S1688, S18632, S18827, S7721, Y5058, Z16500, Z198, Z209, Z2103, Z2106, Z2109, Z251, Z2542, Z2573, Z262, Z296, Z301, Z302, Z56, Z8056, DF103, Z17300

  • #2
    Awesome. Glad to see DF103 is on the list. Thanks to Big Y testing & interpretation, I learned that my Hall family is DF103+.

    All project admins, especially those for R1b clades need to encourage as many M269 estimated particpants as possible to participate in this.

    Timothy Peterman

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    • #3
      A white rectangle instead of the shopping cart... Are FTDNA systems overloaded?

      W.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dna View Post
        A white rectangle instead of the shopping cart... Are FTDNA systems overloaded?

        W.
        It is working now

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        • #5
          Where does one see the sale?

          Timothy Peterman

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          • #6
            This definitely would have saved me money on my grandpa's account. I spent $195 snp testing to get him to his terminal snp of CTS1751 whereas $79 would have gotten him there with this product. It also would have saved the headache of it all since CTS1751 has no discernible haplotype and it was more or less just guessing until I found that his old 23andme v2 results actually included the snp, verified derived. Of course, 23andme doesn't identify that subclade, so I didn't know until I stumbled on a thread which listed the snp.

            So, far, it wouldn't have saved for my son's account since he's L226 which has an easily identifiable haplotype. Therefore, after plugging his str's into the L21 predictor tool, it only cost me $39 to get him to L226. This test would have taken me to Z253 for $79 and then I could spend the $119 for the Z253 snp pack which would have been a total of $198 to get him to his terminal snp. Since I've been in this for awhile, snp testing a la carte, I'm at $165 just to go half way through the Z253 snp pack. The cheapest way for an L226 is still to plug their results into the L21 predictor tool, confirm with a $29 L226 test, and then buy the Z253 snp pack which will get you all the way for $148.

            Either way, whatever gets more guys to snp test is a good thing. It's not much of an issue with my son's L226. They tend to be an enthusiastic bunch in terms of snp testing whereas my grandpa's CTS1751, not so much. So far, only one of his matches is snp tested and it's only because I lobbied him after we confirmed they were paper trail surname matches (shared 3rd great grandfather.) I sent emails to his other 11 matches but not a one expressed any interest or is anything further than L21. 9 are still stuck at M269.

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            • #7
              Im a df27 is this pack worth testing for me?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by T E Peterman View Post
                Where does one see the sale?

                Timothy Peterman
                I believe that FTDNA is including a banner ad for the panel in the accounts of those who are predicted R-M269. Perhaps they're also sending out an e-mail or will to those predicted to be R-M269.

                I hope that's what they're doing, since advertising this backbone panel to R1b customers who are already in a haplogroup project would probably cause some to order it when they should be ordering a downstream SNP panel or at least ask the project administrator for advice about what to do.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MMaddi View Post
                  I believe that FTDNA is including a banner ad for the panel in the accounts of those who are predicted R-M269. Perhaps they're also sending out an e-mail or will to those predicted to be R-M269.
                  Yes, there is a banner, that started showing up yesterday, on the pages of R1b people, even some that have had SNP testing and are already to their terminal SNP. Even the SNPs not in the FTDNA haplotree wouldn't get them any farther down the tree.

                  I believe that they will also start sending an email to customers about the availability of the SNP-pack.

                  Originally posted by MMaddi View Post
                  I hope that's what they're doing, since advertising this backbone panel to R1b customers who are already in a haplogroup project would probably cause some to order it when they should be ordering a downstream SNP panel or at least ask the project administrator for advice about what to do.
                  I think that some people that don't need the SNP-pack will end up ordering it. Hopefully they are informed in time to cancel the order.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Leeb View Post
                    Im a df27 is this pack worth testing for me?
                    Yes, because it tests a lot of SNPs below DF27, even some not on the FTDNA haplotree, so you will know if you belong to any of those branches. If you are in the Z195 branch you will find out how deep you are because it tests for Z209, Z295, Z198, and SRY2627 just to name what I can see by glancing at them.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Armando View Post
                      Yes, because it tests a lot of SNPs below DF27, even some not on the FTDNA haplotree, so you will know if you belong to any of those branches. If you are in the Z195 branch you will find out how deep you are because it tests for Z209, Z295, Z198, and SRY2627 just to name what I can see by glancing at them.

                      Ok Thanks Armando..Just out of curiosity what is the turnaround for these packs?
                      I waited 6 months for a single Snp before -

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Armando View Post
                        Yes, there is a banner, that started showing up yesterday, on the pages of R1b people, even some that have had SNP testing and are already to their terminal SNP. Even the SNPs not in the FTDNA haplotree wouldn't get them any farther down the tree.
                        You're right. I thought better of what I posted, so I checked in the accounts of some R1b members of the Sicily Project. As you posted, some who've already had downstream SNP testing have the banner ad. This would be a waste of money in my view, for the reason you've just stated. They'd be better off finding a SNP panel that would test them for SNPs downstream from their present testing level. Or at least they should consult with the appropriate haplogroup project administrators.


                        Originally posted by Armando View Post
                        I think that some people that don't need the SNP-pack will end up ordering it. Hopefully they are informed in time to cancel the order.
                        This has already happened in the R1b-U106 Project. Three of our members ordered the backbone panel last night. Of course, since they're in the U106 Project, this test will give them negative results for most of the SNPs it tests.

                        I wrote the three members and suggested they contact FTDNA this morning and cancel the order and get a refund. I hope they succeed.

                        This is not a good move by FTDNA. I think they'll be a significant number of their R1b customers who've tested downstream from the SNPs offered in this panel, but who'll unnecessarily order the backbone panel because the banner ad appears in their account.

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                        • #13
                          Notably, a lot of SNPs under R1b M343 are NOT offered. This is per the Family Tree DNA haplotree. My guess is the $79 special will find new terminal SNPs for maybe half of those who take it. If this doesn't find a new SNP, such participants would be better off taking the Big Y.

                          Timothy Peterman

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                          • #14
                            It appears that e-mails are sent using a different algorithm than the banners. My testers with Big Y results got e-mails, but they do not have banners the other testers from R1b have...

                            Mr. W.

                            P.S.
                            Two hours ago, I got an e-mail for administrators.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by T E Peterman View Post
                              Notably, a lot of SNPs under R1b M343 are NOT offered. This is per the Family Tree DNA haplotree. My guess is the $79 special will find new terminal SNPs for maybe half of those who take it. If this doesn't find a new SNP, such participants would be better off taking the Big Y.

                              Timothy Peterman
                              The test is not meant to cover all SNPs under R1b. It is meant to get people into a common branch such as Z2103, CTS4528, U106, P312, U152, L21, DF27 (DF27 isn't tested but subclades are), Z195, and so on. This test does a very good job in that respect. Since the cost of the test is only $1 more than testing just two of those SNPs it is also a very economical test for the large number of people that have no idea which branch they belong to and their closest 37 marker matches haven't done any SNP testing. This will help advance our knowledge of R1b subclade frequencies out of the populations that have tested with FTDNA. Once they get results from this test they can then move on to a subclade project and where they can get help in determining their terminal SNP if they haven't already found it.
                              Last edited by Armando; 29 July 2015, 12:07 PM.

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