New Tree Tool ???

[JDP1144]

What a bunch of crap!

Lousy layout and can't find where to upload a tree.

[jbarry6899]

Boo!

I just tried to examine the family tree of one of my matches. It is awkward, difficult to read and takes too many clicks to display several generations. Even then, the entries are too small and almost impossible to review efficiently.

I really regret that so much time was spent developing what is basically a useless display when all that was needed was to reorient the existing family trees. I believe that the complexity of this new tree will actually discourage people from comparing families.

Jim

[jbarry6899]

Released

Am I missing something? Has it been released or are the comments above still related to the beta test?

I has been released. I have no idea whether any comments from beta testing were taken into account.

[Katydid]

I also very much dislike the tree display - it's extremely cumbersome to navigate through a match's tree. I would like to strongly suggest that a "pedigree view" option more or less identical to the old format be added.

Also, I was alarmed to see that everyone who was in the original Gedcom I uploaded is now displayed (although fortunately according to one's designated birth/death-based privacy settings), not just those on the ancestral lines. I would have stripped some of this information out before uploading if I had known all of it was suddenly going to become public. I finally figured out how to delete individual people, but it's very tedious. (I've got trees uploaded for about 12 kits right now, so I'm not looking forward to that prospect).

I'm glad there's now a utility to allow people to create trees without needing a program that generates Gedcoms, but other than that this is a step back.

[WCoaster]

One more vote against the new layout

I, too, MUCH prefer the old graphic layout to what’s now the Ancestry View. Please bring it back!

I’m relieved to see that the “Import matches” sidebar isn’t included in the final version (unless I missed it), but still don’t see the point of the Family View. “Pictures and stories”? Meh.

[melmoth]

GEDCOM upload has been disabled since I joined, and it might as well still be. I can upload a GEDCOM, but it insists I am my own great-great-great-great-grandmother and won't let me change it. The only option on the screen that prompts you to identify which person in the file is you is my great-great-great-great-grandmother. Even if I cancel out, it selects her. Thereafter, it substitutes my name for hers, and shows me married to my great-great-great-great-grandfather; given the fact I'm male, this certainly makes 18th century West Virginia seem rather more progressive than I suspect it was.

[LynCra]

Oh dear, what a shame that this is such an inefficient view. I was really looking forward to this, thinking from the descriptions that it would be a great tool. Please can we drop the pictures? Only being able to see 4 people on one screen is fairly hopeless in an extensive tree. I wasn´t impressed by the only suggested match in my whole tree being that Parkinson = Pearson either.

[PeterLarsen]

Oh dear, what a shame that this is such an inefficient view. I was really looking forward to this, thinking from the descriptions that it would be a great tool. Please can we drop the pictures? Only being able to see 4 people on one screen is fairly hopeless in an extensive tree. I wasn´t impressed by the only suggested match in my whole tree being that Parkinson = Pearson either.

Where do I find the suggested matches you mention?

[Tenn4ever]

Woah. First, thanks to FT that we got our gedcoms back, but the view is horrible. Even using the minimizer it's still difficult. I can see I won't be using it.

Ancestry has the same thing...the 'Family View' but at least they have the option to choose the 'Pedigree View'. I only use the pedigree view.

When searching for the great overview of a person's lineage I want to see the pedigree view. Then I can either consider the person's lineage or discount it. Time is valuable and the Family View does not lend itself to that.

[MoberlyDrake]

This is awful!!! What are they trying to do? Compete with genealogy programs? This is a DNA company! Has anyone who works there actually tried to use DNA to break down brick walls in their family tree???

Do we want to spend hours trying to click through the trees of our matches with a clumsy tree with pictures and fancy stuff? What do we really want to know? We want to spot common surnames and common locations. And I, for one, want to do it as quickly and easily as possible, with minimal clicking and navigating. And I don't need pictures and stories! If I happen to find ancestors in common with another person, we can share pictures and stories privately, or through other online sites designed for the purpose.

Horizontal pedigrees are best for DNA work, preferably with places displayed without any extra clicking. Gedmatch got it right!!! The only enhancement I might wish for there is bolded surnames. Keep it simple!!!

[PeterLarsen]

Woah. First, thanks to FT that we got our gedcoms back, but the view is horrible. Even using the minimizer it's still difficult. I can see I won't be using it.

Ancestry has the same thing...the 'Family View' but at least they have the option to choose the 'Pedigree View'. I only use the pedigree view.

When searching for the great overview of a person's lineage I want to see the pedigree view. Then I can either consider the person's lineage or discount it. Time is valuable and the Family View does not lend itself to that.

I've gotten used to Ancestry.com's Family-view, but also when I zoom out the zoom setting "stick" even after navigating further, I wish it acted in the same manner here, but here it magnifys to default huge out-of-the-screen-edges as soon as I click anywhere. I hope they fix it, after all it is just a "keep zoom setting"-issue.

[LynCra]

Where do I find the suggested matches you mention?

I wish I could answer that Peter, but I am afraid I can´t. I found a little purple symbol down near the bottom right on one of my trees which took me to one suggested match. Nothing similar on the next kit I have looked at.

[MoberlyDrake]

Whenever I look at a tree at Ancestry, the first thing I do is switch to the horizontal "Pedigree View". I never use the default "Family View". The bad thing on Ancestry is that you still have to click on a name to view location data.

I also only use a horizontal pedigree chart on my own website. I don't have to, but I figure it makes it easier for everybody, including myself, when I want to check something quickly without opening my genealogy program.

What Gedmatch has is what we need here in my opinion.

[phje]

A lot of ancestors in various matches’ trees are now showing up as private when they were viewable with the old GEDCOM. I’m not talking about the parents or grandparents of the match, but ancestors who have been dead for over a hundred years. Are they private now because they don’t have a death date entered? This isn’t conducive to searching for a common ancestor.

[MoberlyDrake]

If you zoom out of the new tree to the point where you get little boxes, the given names are large and bold and the surnames are tiny and cut off. Backwards???