BIG Y Forum

[Rebekah Canada]

Hello,

I just created a BIG Y forum as y'all have requested. http://forums.familytreedna.com/forumdisplay.php?f=236

[dsm]

Can't find DF100/S1203 in Big Y

HI nice to see Big-Y results in and showing at my ftDNA login.

Just after ordering Big-Y, and on a hunch I'd get the result before Big-Y, I ordered the DF100 test. Interestingly it came in positive on 3rd March 2014 and a week ahead of my Big-Y results.

I have tried every combination of searching in Big-Y but while I can find DF99- & the obvious P312- & U106- entries, I simply can't locate DF100 or its alt name S1203.

Am wondering if there is a way to find it ?.

Cheers & congrats for getting this new info out the door.

Doug Marker

[dsm]

Big-Y Download of Raw data

I trust this is already known, but over 2 days the download always fails as soon as it is requested. Shows the "Uh oh" - Houston we have a problem etc: etc: message.

Am sure it is being dealt with but in case it has been missed, it is failing. (Tried it on a Win7 PC and on an iPad).

DSM

[dsm]

Positive feedback re Big-Y

This is feedback as to how easy it is to access and use. The layout is highly intuitive and it doesn't take any time at all to try a wide range of helpful selections.

Again, many thanks for making such a useful facility available with minimal hitches thus far - (but am still intrigued as to how 'the grinch stole DF100' )

Thanks

DSM

[similligan]

dsm, I have a relative who is also DF100. I didn't order Big Y for him, but I was curious if it would be included in Big Y. If it is included, it should be in your novel variants as 16775613. Let me know if you find it.

Susan

[dsm]

Found DF100 => Novel Variants 16775613

Susan,

Thanks for that pointer. You were spot on.

So the conclusion may be that whilst DF100 is named on the Y-DNA SNP page, it is not so named in Big-Y. No problem once understood.

Thanks for solving the mystery and 'the Grinch' gets off free

DSM

PS Is there a link to a site that associates (in a useful format) the 'short-names' to the actual seq numbers. Am sure I have seen one in the past but can't recall where. D.

[dsm]

dsm, I have a relative who is also DF100. I didn't order Big Y for him, but I was curious if it would be included in Big Y. If it is included, it should be in your novel variants as 16775613. Let me know if you find it.

Susan

Susan,
We DF100 folk appear to be scarce as hens teeth. A group of us got together and after extensive research concluded the the 2010 N.Myres et al Study - http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v...g2010146a.html - had done a good job of identifying 3 hotspots for L11*/P310* people. Sth Baltic, Sth Alps and English Midlands.

Our further research came up with good historical documentation showing a convincing migrations/invasions from Sth Baltic to Sth Alps (Burgundians & Lombards) and in the era 975AD-1035AD invasions from Sth Baltic to English Midlands.

My immediate interest in your relative is does his Y-DNA line trace back to Nth Germany -- Nth Poland -- Sth Sweden -- East Denmark, or Sth Alps -- Midlands. On top of those we are finding a growing pocket of L11*/P310* people in what was Nth Flanders (Noord Brabant region of Holland today).

Just want to pass this info on as if we don't already know who he is, this may interest him greatly.

Cheers DSM

PPS - self is both DF100 *and* CTS4528. We are now wondering how many of us DF100 folk will also be CTS4528. If we are then it gets interesting as to why. Most in our little group who are already CTS4528 (from Natgeo2 test) have transferred results to ftDNA and are ordering DF100 test.

[similligan]

dsm, I sent you a private message and I didn't notice that you had made two replies. So I'm glad you found the DF100.

There are some emails floating around that have the Chromo2 SNP coordinates. That's what I used to give you the position of DF100.

Susan

[dsm]

DF100

dsm, I sent you a private message and I didn't notice that you had made two replies. So I'm glad you found the DF100.

There are some emails floating around that have the Chromo2 SNP coordinates. That's what I used to give you the position of DF100.

Susan

Thanks Susan.

Am happy to take this to messaging.

Cheers DSM

[dsm]

Big-Y Download of raw data working

Here are some samples for anyone wondering what it looks like

*.bed
chrY 2649862 2651013
chrY 2651362 2651813
chrY 2652112 2654963
chrY 2655000 2657938
chrY 2658038 2660546
chrY 2660549 2665010
chrY 2665064 2665083
chrY 2665085 2665086
chrY 2665087 2665141
chrY 2665148 2665266
chrY 2665269 2665335
chrY 2665936 2666481
chrY 2666653 2666679
chrY 2666680 2668887
chrY 2669130 2669815
chrY 2669816 2669835

*.vcf
##fileformat=VCFv4.1
##fileDate=20140304
##FORMAT=<ID=GT,Number=1,Type=String,Descriptio n="Genotype">
##contig=<ID=chrY,length=59373566,assembly=hg19 >
#CHROM POS ID REF ALT QUAL FILTER INFO FORMAT aa3d3dea-457c-4be3-bc33-58f121f31b76
chrY 2649856 . G . 33.7779 REJECTED . GT 0
chrY 2650265 . A . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2650371 . G . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2650701 . G . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2650853 . G . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2651027 . C . 1188.32 REJECTED . GT 0
chrY 2653141 . T . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2654086 . T . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2654333 . C . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2654544 . C . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2655180 . G . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2655989 . A . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2656276 . G . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2656913 . T . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2656959 . T . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2656961 . G . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2656992 . G . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0
chrY 2657071 . A . 1484.13 PASS . GT 0

The accompanying text file ...
For the advanced user, we have made the BigY raw data files available for download. The download will be a zipped archive that contains a .vcf and a .bed file.

The VCF file contains a list of all variants found using the build 37.3 human genome reference. You can find more info about the VCF file format here:
http://www.1000genomes.org/.../vcf-variant-call-format...

Only variants that contain "PASS" in the "Filter" column should be considered. We include variants that did not pass our analysis standards for your informational purposes only.

The BED file contains the regions that were targeted in BigY and passed our sequencing and analysis quality control. You can find more info about the BED file format here:

http://useast.ensembl.org/info/website/upload/bed.html

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DSM