Received Deep SNP (Batch 157 Results)

[Arch Yeomans]

I'm R1b1c6 - Hmmm. Now how did I get a supposedly Germanic surname????? Visigoths in Iberia? Vandals? Suebi? Cimbri? Aliens? Anybody got an idea?????

[GvdM]

Your c6 lived in Germania when surnames were adopted

[Stevo]

I'm R1b1c6 - Hmmm. Now how did I get a supposedly Germanic surname????? Visigoths in Iberia? Vandals? Suebi? Cimbri? Aliens? Anybody got an idea?????

You are SRY2627+, Arch?

Here is a pretty good description of what is known about R1b1c6.

By the way, I am writing from the lovely Park Plaza Hotel in lovely Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

[nas]

R1b1c6

I'm R1b1c6 - Hmmm. Now how did I get a supposedly Germanic surname????? Visigoths in Iberia? Vandals? Suebi? Cimbri? Aliens? Anybody got an idea?????

Hello,

Are you not close to R1b1c7?
I have some markers with c6(Germany,Spain,England,Scotland and Ireland + a few Unknown).

nas

[Arch Yeomans]

Yep SRY2627+

You are SRY2627+, Arch?

Here is a pretty good description of what is known about R1b1c6.

By the way, I am writing from the lovely Park Plaza Hotel in lovely Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

Sure am. I had a suspicion that it might be since the base 'modal' seemed to reflect what everybody has been labeling either as Basque or Iberian.

Never been to Lancaster, PA., but I've been to Pittsburgh not to long ago. For a big city it really is a nice place. As a kid I always had a bad vision of it.

[Arch Yeomans]

Yeah I think so

Hello,

Are you not close to R1b1c7?
I have some markers with c6(Germany,Spain,England,Scotland and Ireland + a few Unknown).

nas

I was looking at certain markers and noticed the rarity or what seems rare to me on certain ones; especially DYS 448 = 17. Ken Nordtvedt pointed this out to me and I noticed a few others as well. I've only found two other people who carry the same DYS 448 as I do, and both are R1b1c.

I'm thinking R1b1c6 is not as close to R1b1c7 as it is to R1b1c or perhaps R1b1c7 mutated from R1b1c6. What the other member mentioned is how he's noticed DYS 448 = 17 only seems to be common in Wales, Cornwall region and in Spain. Maybe this is the Milesian DNA of Irish mythology or legend?

[Arch Yeomans]

Naaaa.... not true

Your c6 lived in Germania when surnames were adopted

From my understanding my relatives never lived in Germania in the classical sense of the word. Plus surnames are not purely a Germanic invention. The Normans probably adopted it from their enemy the Franks, and the Franks from the Romans. The early Germanic culture was not developed as well as their counterpart Franks who adopted the Roman lifestyle of christianity, etc.

It was the Franks (though Germanic) who probably brought culture of civilization to the north through "Romanization".

Anybody who wanted to claim to being somebody important always claimed Roman ancestry; the Celts did the same thing with King Arthur and Magnus Maximus (Romano-Spaniard).

I don't believe Germania before the Romans was ever intelligent enough to have invented surnames, just like they didn't invent runes as we're all misled to believe. Ironic how runes look like Phoenican and Latin letters. LOL. We all know the Irish monks had to teach the Germans the letters G, and Y. LOL.