Batch 147 created

[Stevo]

And here's the 90'th post!!

I've been thinking ahead too. I know I'll do the deep clade test - I'm actually surprised that isn't more popular than it is... probably because genealogists are investing in DNA for those connections they haven't been able to prove any other way. Markers make sense there. That's the reason I started with a 25-marker Y-DNA test.

I'm really impressed with how the deep clade test is able to place you on the human family tree. Very interesting, so that would be my next move. Later more markers if necessary. The way things are going, it probably will be necessary!

I may do that, as well, just to confirm things and to see if the FTDNA folks can help me nail down my ancestral geography a bit.

I will probably also do the mtDNA testing.

Now . . . how to persuade the wife that it's all worth it . . .

[Paul_Sheats]

Now . . . how to persuade the wife that it's all worth it . . .

Tell her it's better than having a gambling problem. I mean, at least you're getting something for your money.

[JTCullen]

Was checking personal page while posting and noticed that for Batch 147 I have Quality Control started April 25 and now a Target Date of May 19. That's right on the money.
Now, at the extreme risk of being squashed for enthusiasm again, it'd be nice if we got lucky with early results (about a week early avg) - again, we're not average... but we might be lucky However long it takes we just want accurate results (as said earlier by another poster).

Okay, now squash away, just don't blame me for the averages.

[melissa]

I live in Nevada. Gambling is not a problem but.... I have seen results get posted DAYS after the quality control begins. Not weeks, or week, but days. I'm going to be sitting here watching those bubbles in the boiling pot.

[JTCullen]

Yeah, I have seen those extremely early results too... didn't want to get hopes TOO high! Doesn't happen too often but keep your fingers crossed and just maybe!

[Stevo]

Tell her it's better than having a gambling problem. I mean, at least you're getting something for your money.

Good idea.

It's also cheaper than gambling.

Speaking of gambling, if I find out I'm a Y-DNA American Indian (not likely), can I open a casino?

(No serious answer needed, folks. I'm joking.)

[Stevo]

Was checking personal page while posting and noticed that for Batch 147 I have Quality Control started April 25 and now a Target Date of May 19. That's right on the money.
Now, at the extreme risk of being squashed for enthusiasm again, it'd be nice if we got lucky with early results (about a week early avg) - again, we're not average... but we might be lucky However long it takes we just want accurate results (as said earlier by another poster).

Okay, now squash away, just don't blame me for the averages.

You're batting a thousand on giving me the news on Batch 147 before I see it on my personal page!

Thanks again!

That brightened my day.

[Stevo]

I live in Nevada. Gambling is not a problem but.... I have seen results get posted DAYS after the quality control begins. Not weeks, or week, but days. I'm going to be sitting here watching those bubbles in the boiling pot.

Wouldn't that be great?

Just to get the first twelve markers in would be exciting.

But May 19 is not bad either.

Things are going well, thank God.

[JTCullen]

You're very welcome. By the way... who's making the 100'th post? Won't be me - I gotta leave here in a minute.

[Stevo]

You're very welcome. By the way... who's making the 100'th post? Won't be me - I gotta leave here in a minute.

Hooray!

It's me!

I've got people at work interested in DNA testing and FTDNA now. They're all awaiting news of my results.

One of my students (I'm a teacher) talked his parents into allowing him to participate in the Genographic Project. He has one of those surnames associated with "Niall of the Nine Hostages." When I told him about King Niall and the possible connection to his surname, he got fired up with interest in history and in DNA testing. That was gratifying to see.

I'm excited about the things I am learning here and about the things I will learn in the coming days.

[JTCullen]

I've heard about the King Niall signature markers. I've been looking into that a bit since it's kinda contrary (technically) but very very interesting.
The markers show kinship of varying degrees but you really can't identify the common ancestor... usually. That's without even mentioning non-paternity and so on.
The one way I see Niall's signature being valid is if Irish Legend associates a group of families to a common ancestor - in this case Niall. Now normally we'd have to take their word for it since DNA isn't in the picture yet. I don't see that as a problem really since that's one of the privileges of having an Irish ancestry - legendary heroes attached to your personal family.
DNA comes in and - lo and behold - just those families indicated have kinship of varying degrees revealed in their DNA. Now it's hard to say if it was Niall himself, or some relative, or someone else altogether who was the common ancestor to those families... but.... it IS highly supportive of the legend. We're still not able to identify the common ancestor technically, but the evidence suggests there may be more than just a little truth to the Irish legends - so why NOT let it be Niall. Just that name is enough to let everyone know what you're talking about.
Maybe we could call him Genetic Niall but, if I were a native Irishman, I'd shoot that down in a minute. Until we have a technology that can identify the common ancestor (not likely anytime soon), we may as well let traditional Irish texts fill in the blanks for us. Technical DNA naysayers may shoot me down and they'd probably be right - but I wouldn't let it ruin my day, or the right to such a legendary ancestry... maybe someone in Batch 147 perhaps?

[M.O'Connor]

UiNeill would have shared his dna sequence with lots of males even at the time he was born..if he existed at all. I guess it's a common R1B1 sequence.
it doesn't mean an Irish Ghengis Khan fathered thousands of children.
Of course I wouldn't put it past the O'Connor folks of Munster.

He would not be the originator of his sequence, nor would he be the only male that was spreading that same sequence.

The sequence was supposedly more common in N/W Ireland with some matches in Scotland.

That's my take on it.

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Here is a page of Sept names. I can't say it is accurate. So I read it accordingly.

http://www.davidalarkin.com/family.htm

[M.O'Connor]

I don't match the N/W Irish haplo group. My numbers look more like the sequences i've seen from Munster, and south Ireland.

[M.O'Connor]

not enough of a match for a conclusion.

Well who knows.......c'mon 147

[Jim Denning]

I may do that, as well, just to confirm things and to see if the FTDNA folks can help me nail down my ancestral geography a bit.

I will probably also do the mtDNA testing.

Now . . . how to persuade the wife that it's all worth it . . .

your at a computor not the bar looking at girls