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  • In my own case:

    1) FTDNA had never seen my exact 12-marker haplotype before (no exact matches).

    2) Nevertheless, FTDNA predicted that I was in I1b.

    3) Only yesterday, I got the results of a simple haplogroup test that FTDNA had performed at no extra charge. The test confirmed that I was I1b.

    My conclusion is that FTDNA's new policy may be to perform a free simple haplogroup test on any 12-marker haplotype that FTDNA has never seen before.

    But this is just my guess. Also note that I actually ordered 59 yDNA markers as well as mtDNA HVR1 and HVR2, so perhaps FTDNA gave me extra consideration as a heavy customer.

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    • I think they are fair to everyone.

      I had my HVR1 and HVR2 done. I have been classed as "Haplo H".

      I have 2 HVR1 mutations listed. 16519C which is common for H, and 16145A which is not easy to find.

      I did find 16145A listed under some other haplo groups and I wrote to Bennett G. asking if I might be wrongly classed as H?

      Bennett aasured me that i have been confirmed H through a barage of tests. i'm happy with that...but I still went for the H Refinement. My mt results are due on July 3 in Batch 153.

      That's awfull close to your Independance Celebrations.

      I will have something to celebrate also.

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      • Originally posted by efriedman
        FYI, I just read a website that contradicts what I wrote above:

        http://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/famil...nographic.html

        According to this website (whose author probably knows much more than I do):
        • Genographic Project does a free SNP test if they cannot predict your haplogroup with certainty.
        • FTDNA does not do a free SNP test if they can't predict your haplogroup with certainty. Instead, you do have to order and pay for the haplogroup confirmation test if you want to know your haplogroup.
        • FTDNA results cannot be uploaded to the Genographic Project if the haplogroup has not been predicted with certainty (or tested). In this case, you'll need to order the haplogroup confirmation test before your results can be uploaded to the Genographic Project.


        I knew I had read something about a free SNP test!

        Elise
        I too remember something like that, about keep testing in case the initial results are not clear anough to define the haplogroup. Maybe they've changed their policies.

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        • So is it better to go through National Genographic for testing?....you also get a dvd and booklets from The Genographic Project.



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          Tomorrow my test results are due. I assume they will be late though. So i'll just sit back and enjoy the day.

          aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

          Good to hear Stevo's Wife returned from a holiday yesterday.
          I wonder where he is

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          • Originally posted by M.O'Connor
            well well...another R1B1.

            Congrats on your results Stevo



            I have matches in 12 and 25..but no matches in 37.

            My snp and 38-59 results are still due Monday...is anybody else waiting on 147 results?
            Thanks!

            Yeah, I have a handful of exact matches at 12 and three or four 24/25 matches with people who do not share my surname. I expect them to fade at 37 markers.

            Mike Maddi says he believes I have the Frisian (NW Germany, NE Netherlands) version of R1b1 (but, of course, that is only his preliminary assessment).

            I have some near misses all over Europe, even a couple in Russia.

            My nearest non-R relatives are an N in Mongolia, another N in Siberia, and an O in Vietnam! Whoa!

            My wife and daughter came in from Russia yesterday. Their plane (Aeroflot) was an hour late. They came bearing gifts. My buddy Sasha (Alexander) from Moscow sent me some quality Russian vodka in a nice gift box with some shot glasses. My mother-in-law (a very nice person) sent me a silver Russian cross with an Old Slavonic prayer on the back and - bless her! - some Ukrainian hot pepper mead (honey wine). I can't wait to try that mead.

            Just as I thought she would, my wife laughed when she found out I'm a member of the most common European y-haplogroup. She said, "You paid money to find that out? I could have told you that!"

            I guess I'll have to go for the deep clade stuff now to find out more, especially since I have no matches with anyone with my surname or one of its variants.

            I would also like to know about my mtDNA.

            As much as I allowed myself to sweat the results, in the end FTDNA came through like a champ, right on time.

            My hat is off to them.

            Outstanding service. I will continue to recommend them to others.
            Last edited by Stevo; 21 May 2006, 09:17 AM.

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            • Originally posted by M.O'Connor
              well well...another R1B1.

              Congrats on your results Stevo



              I have matches in 12 and 25..but no matches in 37.

              My snp and 38-59 results are still due Monday...is anybody else waiting on 147 results?
              Yes, I'm still waiting on 147 results, too. Maybe, Monday ...

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              • Originally posted by RScott
                Yes, I'm still waiting on 147 results, too. Maybe, Monday ...
                Is this your first test, or are you doing one of the deep clade things?

                I sent FTDNA an email early on Friday. I was told they would get 300 results in this weekend. Mine were among those.

                Perhaps yours will be posted Monday.

                I hope so.

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                • RScott...is May 22 your target date also?

                  Which tests are you having done?

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                  Good morning Stevo...i hope your family had a great trip.

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                  • Originally posted by M.O'Connor
                    RScott...is May 22 your target date also?

                    Which tests are you having done?

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                    Good morning Stevo...i hope your family had a great trip.
                    They had a great time, although my daughter drove my wife crazy on the plane ride home, playing with the Russian kids.

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                    • I can imagine how bored kids can get confined on a plane. Lots of energy to keep penned up for hours.

                      kids will be kids..

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                      • Originally posted by Stevo
                        I just got my results from FTDNA!

                        At least the first twelve markers.

                        Phew!

                        At last!

                        There's joy in Muddville tonight.

                        I found out I'm an average white guy (surprise): R1b1.

                        Where are you, O'Connor, my brother!

                        We ride with the Uyghurs! Break out the kumis!

                        And where are my other brothers: Francesco and Mike Maddi?

                        (Sorry, folks. I'm rather elated.)
                        Stevo!
                        Congratulations!!!

                        I spent the weekend away so I couldn't know the GREAT NEWS.

                        It is a beautiful feeling isn't it? What are you going to do now? Any plans for sub-clade testing?

                        Bye cousin (we are relatives man!!!)

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                        • Originally posted by F.E.C.
                          Stevo!
                          Congratulations!!!

                          I spent the weekend away so I couldn't know the GREAT NEWS.

                          It is a beautiful feeling isn't it? What are you going to do now? Any plans for sub-clade testing?

                          Bye cousin (we are relatives man!!!)
                          I'm sure I will do the sub clade testing, probably soon.

                          I also got my next 13 markers within a few minutes of getting the first twelve.

                          12 more to go from this first test.

                          It is good to be a part of such a big, beautiful, distinguished, and, might I say, intelligent family.

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                          • Some things just come naturally.

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                            • Today is my Batch 147 target date. Hopefully things have gone smooth.

                              ...although sometimes there can be delays.

                              554 posts and climbing

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                              • Originally posted by M.O'Connor
                                Today is my Batch 147 target date. Hopefully things have gone smooth.

                                ...although sometimes there can be delays.

                                554 posts and climbing
                                May everything go smoothly with your tests and results, and may they all be right on time.

                                I hope you get some answers along with your new batch of questions.

                                That's one thing about being R1b1: it's such a huge and widespread European y-haplogroup that it is impossible to say that its members were one thing or another.

                                Romans? Celts? Germans? Vikings? Scythians? Uyghurs? Greeks? Turks?

                                Anything is possible.

                                Of course, in my own humble opinion, the closer one comes to our own time, the more mixed populations become, so that it is impossible to say that male Romans or Vikings, for examples, belonged to any single y-haplogroup.

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