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  • Stevo
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    Originally posted by Vinny
    It is a Spanish Surname, I guess it first appeared in Asturias, Spain. I thought I only had one match with a genetic distance of -7 at the 67 marker level. I still don't quite understand all this DNA stuff but I am getting it a little bit. What do you think that could possibly mean? Thanks for your help, Vinny
    I am reluctant anymore to engage in guesswork about "tribes" and all that, but you sure do seem to have quite a group of fairly close 67-marker Scottish and Irish neighbors.

    Maybe it's a Celtic thing?

    I haven't had the time to really analyze your haplotype for off-modal stuff, but I noticed that you and several of your haplotype neighbors share 391=10, and that's interesting. You also have 389-1=15 (your neighbors have 14), and I believe the modal there is 13.

    Interesting. You might have some kind of cluster there, but I would need to look more closely and get the help of another couple of sets of eyes to be sure.

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  • Vinny
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    Surname

    Originally posted by Stevo
    You could still be R1b1c10 (S28+). FTDNA should start testing for the S series shortly.

    When those tests become available, you ought to have them done, just in case.

    Still, probably just over 50% of R1b1c men cannot currently be placed into any known subclade.

    I understand FTDNA is working on that problem, so there may be light at the end of the tunnel.

    Right now I'm in the same boat you're in, except that I've been S tested and know that I am neither S21+ nor S28+.

    BTW, you've got a startling number of fairly close 67-marker Scottish and Irish haplotype neighbors for someone with what looks like a Spanish surname.
    It is a Spanish Surname, I guess it first appeared in Asturias, Spain. I thought I only had one match with a genetic distance of -7 at the 67 marker level. I still don't quite understand all this DNA stuff but I am getting it a little bit. What do you think that could possibly mean? Thanks for your help, Vinny

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  • Stevo
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    Originally posted by R2-D2
    Your first 1000 posts are in this thread aren't they Stevo?
    Could be!

    Those were the good ol' days!

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  • Stevo
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    Originally posted by Vinny
    Hey, not to get into your conversation, but I have been tested I am R1b1c but not i'm not R1b1c 1-8. My DYS492=12 and my 390=24, so I’m probably not 9 then, what does that mean? Can you give me any help?
    You could still be R1b1c10 (S28+). FTDNA should start testing for the S series shortly.

    When those tests become available, you ought to have them done, just in case.

    Still, probably just over 50% of R1b1c men cannot currently be placed into any known subclade.

    I understand FTDNA is working on that problem, so there may be light at the end of the tunnel.

    Right now I'm in the same boat you're in, except that I've been S tested and know that I am neither S21+ nor S28+.

    BTW, you've got a startling number of fairly close 67-marker Scottish and Irish haplotype neighbors for someone with what looks like a Spanish surname.
    Last edited by Stevo; 12 November 2007, 01:15 PM.

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  • Vinny
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    hum...

    Originally posted by MMaddi
    I looked at your ysearch account. I agree that there's a good chance that you're R1b1c9. I mentioned that the research haplotype had DYS492=13, which is the best indicator so far for an S21+ prediction. (S21 is the SNP that defines R1b1c9.) You do have that value, plus you have DYS390=23, which is found at higher percentages among S21+ men, than those who test S21-. The R1b modal for DYS390 is 24.

    However, the only sure way to know if you're S21+ or S21- is through a SNP test. You're probably aware that Ethnoancestry is the only company that presently tests for S21+ and a couple of downstream markers. I recommend that you test at Ethnoancesty. Their website is www.ethnoancestry.com.
    Hey, not to get into your conversation, but I have been tested I am R1b1c but not i'm not R1b1c 1-8. My DYS492=12 and my 390=24, so I’m probably not 9 then, what does that mean? Can you give me any help?

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  • R2-D2
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    Originally posted by Stevo
    I was feeling nostalgic about good ol' Batch 147.

    Thought I'd say hi.

    Got my first 37-marker results in this batch back in May of 2006.

    That was exciting.

    Your first 1000 posts are in this thread aren't they Stevo?

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  • Stevo
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    I was feeling nostalgic about good ol' Batch 147.

    Thought I'd say hi.

    Got my first 37-marker results in this batch back in May of 2006.

    That was exciting.

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  • Stevo
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    Originally posted by Johnserrat
    Still, I understand the value in doing so when you are from a common haplogroup like R1b.

    John
    I prefer successful or highly successful to "common."



    But then John has never been known to like R1b much.
    Last edited by Stevo; 25 March 2007, 01:37 PM.

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    Mike - Thanks! I think I will follow your recommendation.

    Greg

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  • MMaddi
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    Originally posted by GregoryJD
    Mike - John
    Thanks for your responses. I have a better understanding now. Although I have not been tested for it, I believe I am R1b1c9. I have spent considerable time making comparisons with the various Internet data and my results seem to point in that direction. I am GM5J9 at Ysearch.org.

    Greg
    I looked at your ysearch account. I agree that there's a good chance that you're R1b1c9. I mentioned that the research haplotype had DYS492=13, which is the best indicator so far for an S21+ prediction. (S21 is the SNP that defines R1b1c9.) You do have that value, plus you have DYS390=23, which is found at higher percentages among S21+ men, than those who test S21-. The R1b modal for DYS390 is 24.

    However, the only sure way to know if you're S21+ or S21- is through a SNP test. You're probably aware that Ethnoancestry is the only company that presently tests for S21+ and a couple of downstream markers. I recommend that you test at Ethnoancesty. Their website is www.ethnoancestry.com.

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    Mike - John
    Thanks for your responses. I have a better understanding now. Although I have not been tested for it, I believe I am R1b1c9. I have spent considerable time making comparisons with the various Internet data and my results seem to point in that direction. I am GM5J9 at Ysearch.org.

    Greg

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  • Johnserrat
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    This is being done by people across various haplogroups. Usually, people take the slowest moving markers to see from what country or region that they find the most matches. I discovered this when I contacted someone with whom I appeared to have a 30 marker match for the first time. Alas, the fast-moving markers did not match at all and we were not related in a recent timeframe. Still, I understand the value in doing so when you are from a common haplogroup like R1b.

    John

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  • MMaddi
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    Originally posted by GregoryJD
    There is a haplogroup at Ysearch with the ID "FHGJ3." The person who placed it there makes it very clear it does not apply to a particular person and also makes it very clear attempts at contact should not be made. The values shown are apparently for an R1b1c with some interesting values. Does anyone know what this is all about? I am an exact match with the thirty markers shown there.

    Greg
    I'm not sure exactly what the creator of this ysearch account is searching for, but, as he states in the "Additional information" section, it's not the haplotype of a real person. This is a research haplotype of select markers that this person created to find close matches, probably to see the geographic or ethnic ancestry (also referred to as deep ancestry) of people who match the haplotype he created.

    When I ran a search for exact matches to this research haplotype, I got 21 matches (see http://tinyurl.com/yw29j5 ). The DYS492=13 would be a good indicator of R1b1c9, so maybe that's one thing the creator of this research haplotype was looking for.

    Mike Maddi

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    Ysearch Question

    There is a haplogroup at Ysearch with the ID "FHGJ3." The person who placed it there makes it very clear it does not apply to a particular person and also makes it very clear attempts at contact should not be made. The values shown are apparently for an R1b1c with some interesting values. Does anyone know what this is all about? I am an exact match with the thirty markers shown there.

    Greg

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  • Stevo
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    Originally posted by M.O'Connor
    Thanks JT

    This dna stuff raises a lot of questions and possibilities.

    The fun is trying to make some sense of it.

    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    This thread was very active. I met some interesting people in these Batch threads, and it helped pass the time till the results came in.
    Good ol' 147!

    Got my mtDNA results (from a later batch, not 147): I'm U5.

    I haven't visited the FTDNA Forum in a long time. I couldn't visit and not drop a line in the old 147 thread!

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