Batch 147 created

[M.O'Connor]

Right on Brother! .....(just in case you win)


Virginia sounds sounds like good Beef country.

Lobster season started on Monday here in Atlantic Canada. Catches were good the first 2 days. I'll have to pick up a bunch at the wharf for my annual spring feast.

May 22 is getting closer!....It's almost another day closer!

[DMac]

Right on Brother! .....(just in case you win)


Virginia sounds sounds like good Beef country.

Lobster season started on Monday here in Atlantic Canada. Catches were good the first 2 days. I'll have to pick up a bunch at the wharf for my annual spring feast.

May 22 is getting closer!....It's almost another day closer!

Not really known for beef...you need to head out west a bit...but we do have The Bay. Great seafood. Unfortunately, the oysters have been decimated by disease but reports are that there's a glut of blue crabs after several lean years. Strippers and flounder were in abundance the last I heard.

I'm not a big lobster eater...just a bit rich for me...but my wife loves 'em. Ship a few on down this way. A buddy of mine, who worked for an airline, would hop a plane for Boston about his time of year [it was free for him], get a cooler full of lobsters, return home and be cooking them that evening. Even I enjoyed those. Of course, it may have been the free flowing beer that did it.

[sitiv1]

What to get out of testing

I first was interested in DNA testing for deep ancestry reasons. I discovered my family's genealogy folks through searching to see if anybody had already done the DNA testing. I'm pretty interested in both; I may go somewhere else and just get 1 SNP tested, since my cousin has already had every SNP tested in our haplogroup. If I test the bottom one on the tree, I should be able to prove that I'm in that haplogroup with SNPs too. There's not such a point really, since we don't have any other close matches and he's already SNPed.
I can't wait for my hvr1, since I really don't know what will be coming back for results. MY maternal line gets real mysterious around 1800 or so...
Here's wishing everyone the best, and moving us 1 closer to 200 posts.
steve

[M.O'Connor]

I thought Virginia was further west. Our Oysters are very good here. We have Blue mussel farms in our river inlets too.

[DMac]

I first was interested in DNA testing for deep ancestry reasons. I discovered my family's genealogy folks through searching to see if anybody had already done the DNA testing. I'm pretty interested in both; I may go somewhere else and just get 1 SNP tested, since my cousin has already had every SNP tested in our haplogroup. If I test the bottom one on the tree, I should be able to prove that I'm in that haplogroup with SNPs too. There's not such a point really, since we don't have any other close matches and he's already SNPed.
I can't wait for my hvr1, since I really don't know what will be coming back for results. MY maternal line gets real mysterious around 1800 or so...
Here's wishing everyone the best, and moving us 1 closer to 200 posts.
steve

sitiv1,

If the STR testing shows that you and your cousin are related, there's no need for you to have any SNP testing if he's already done it. You are going to share the same haplogroup, which is what SNP testing shows.

Many times, depending on the company, it's cheaper to get additional testing done on previously studied samples. There's no additional set up charge. So, if in the future additional SNP tests become available for you and your cousin's haplogroup, use his samples and save money. If you work it right, he'll pay for it as well.

[DMac]

I thought Virginia was further west. Our Oysters are very good here. We have Blue mussel farms in our river inlets too.

Well, we are further west than you are but, we're on the east coast.

[JTCullen]

Over 200 posts and over 1000 views!?!? This Batch 147 thread is off the hook! Congrats, Dmac, you got the 200'th post.

[DMac]

Over 200 posts and over 1000 views!?!? This Batch 147 thread is off the hook! Congrats, Dmac, you got the 200'th post.

Hmmm, sorry about that. If I had noticed I would have left that up to a 147ite. I'm just a guest at your party.

[M.O'Connor]

Well, we are further west than you are but, we're on the east coast.

Yes..actually i'm on Prince Edward Island in the Gulf of St Lawrence.

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200 posts?....we have a ways to go till the the batch results come in.

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DMac...were you at all surprised with your y-results?

[Stevo]

Not really known for beef...you need to head out west a bit...but we do have The Bay. Great seafood. Unfortunately, the oysters have been decimated by disease but reports are that there's a glut of blue crabs after several lean years. Strippers and flounder were in abundance the last I heard.

I'm not a big lobster eater...just a bit rich for me...but my wife loves 'em. Ship a few on down this way. A buddy of mine, who worked for an airline, would hop a plane for Boston about his time of year [it was free for him], get a cooler full of lobsters, return home and be cooking them that evening. Even I enjoyed those. Of course, it may have been the free flowing beer that did it.

I like catching crabs. When I was a kid and lived over in St. Mary's County, Maryland, my Dad and my brothers and I used to catch them in the area of Point Lookout. When I lived down on the Virginia Peninsula I used to go crabbing at Poquoson.

Last summer I did some crabbing in the Colonial Beach area but didn't have much luck. I started late, though, and then those hurricanes, even though they were way down South, stirred things up and made the crabs a little shy.

Blue crabs and beer go great together. I'm starting earlier this year.

C'mon 147!

[sitiv1]

Vanity SNP

The only reason to SNP, since my cousin already did it, would be vanity, so I can have my haplogroup in green See: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/f/fuqua/results.html I'm that SCFuqua guy. My cousin was the first to test in the family, and has tested with several companies. My y12-y25 upgrade in this batch will probably only confirm what we already know, but may help later when two other cousins test and we start to try to figure out where the mutations happened.

This weekend I'm going to start playing around with J2 results from others in the computer and see if there are any patterns I can find that somebody else hasn't already figured out.
I gotta do something until my hvr1 comes in. I know what I'll probably do then, order an hvr2 test
Take care,
steve

[Jim Denning]

The only reason to SNP, since my cousin already did it, would be vanity, so I can have my haplogroup in green See: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/f/fuqua/results.html I'm that SCFuqua guy. My cousin was the first to test in the family, and has tested with several companies. My y12-y25 upgrade in this batch will probably only confirm what we already know, but may help later when two other cousins test and we start to try to figure out where the mutations happened.

This weekend I'm going to start playing around with J2 results from others in the computer and see if there are any patterns I can find that somebody else hasn't already figured out.
I gotta do something until my hvr1 comes in. I know what I'll probably do then, order an hvr2 test
Take care,
steve

i am 37 with eb31 snp my son is 25 we exact match
i plan on doing hin to 57 whater the number is so each time we leap frog each other i think sometime they will add the e3b1 in green . but i dont plan on upgrading until i get a close 37 or i get some more money

[JTCullen]

Hi Jim, nice to see you dropping by from time to time to make sure we haven't all died from excitement! I'm having a 25 marker test, hopefully convincing others in the family to try also. I'd like to see distant cousins in the same family (originating around 1600 Upton, Notts) have tests done. I'd like to verify we descend from the same families. That way too, the deep clade test, when ordered, will be more trustworthy.

How many markers could you concievably increase to? I mean, there are 23 million odd base pairs in the Y-chromosome alone... have you ever heard an estimate on how many SNP's or STR's with usable mutation rates there may be for future work?

[M.O'Connor]

Probably in the future dna samples will be put in a machine and the complete results will come out the other end in seconds.

How far away can that day be?

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Stevo....I never ate crab?..except for snow-crab legs.

I have an "all I can eat" lobster feast once a year. that's enough for me.
Towards the fall I go for a feed of the local scollops.

(enough of that..i'm getting hungry....keep the 147 candle burning!)

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I feel 59 markers is enough for me here. If I do get any additional markers, they would be in relation to makers used in other sites.
It's a matter of...are those markers going to be available here? ..or do i have to get tested there.

[JTCullen]

I did find a mention at www.kerchner.com/dnamutationrates.htm

Number of Y-STR Y chromosome DYS markers in Y-DNA, i.e., the Y chromosome:
Surmised to be hundreds although currently less than 50 are in use for commercial Y-DNA testing. In the not too distant future commercial tests for typing over 100 STRs may be offered.

I would have guessed more but there you go. SNP's would span the Y-chromosome. Right now there's really no point in more STR's being offered but there will be surprises coming in the future I'm sure. It's amazing what they've done in just the last year or two - what will DNA testing reveal a decade from now?