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  • Batch 119

    Batch 119 created
    9/1/2005

  • #2
    mtDNA(HVR1)
    10/8/2005
    batch119

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    • #3
      Batch 119

      Hello!

      (Please forgive my ignorance; I am new!)
      I sent in my sample 2 Sept 2005 (last Friday). Does this make me a
      member of this batch (not by blood but by calendar) -- assuming sample
      is good? What is the window for a new batch to begin, once it is sent in?

      Thanx
      Clara

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      • #4
        when you send in your kit the day they recieve it you get as email with a personal page that will tell you your batch is started . it then will tell you as the kit is processed and dates assigned to it as shown below. the second is the creation of a batch



        DNA Test Progress


        Event Date Comment

        Kit Received
        7/14/2005

        Batch 116 created
        7/21/2005

        DNA Isolation began
        7/24/2005

        DNA at Sequencing facility
        8/6/2005

        Quality Control began
        8/10/2005

        *Target Results Date
        9/9/2005

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gene2005
          Hi, Jim Denning, you dont know me. i`m new at this (like most people).I was looking throught Family Tree DNA Forums and i seen your threads and it`s sound like you what you are talking about so i`m going bug you with this. from your reply thread, could you please explain to me what its mean? because i`m a apart of batch 119, what the date mean? Thank you,
          i am not sure alot of people here would agree about me knowing what i am talking about . but then again i dont know if anyone does but here is an answer
          mtDNA(HVR1) = the mtdna first stage test
          10/8/2005 = expected date
          batch119= batch number

          this is an updated one
          Kit Received
          8/29/2005

          Batch 119 created
          9/1/2005

          DNA Isolation began
          9/4/2005

          DNA at Sequencing facility


          Quality Control began


          *Target Results Date

          its simply the stages of processing

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          • #6
            *Target Results Date 10/15/2005

            Kit Received
            8/25/2005

            Batch 119 created
            9/1/2005

            DNA Isolation began
            9/4/2005

            DNA at Sequencing facility
            9/17/2005

            Quality Control began
            9/21/2005

            *Target Results Date
            10/15/2005

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gene2005
              Thank you for all your help, but, i have this question. where could i find out about the batch calendar for batch 119 concerning my mtdna date? Is it different from the above dates or am i expect to recieve the order(including the mtdna results) all at once?, again thank you much,i hope you`re having a bless day,later.
              on your personal page
              if you didnt save the link go to ftdnas front page and put in your kit number and password that will take you there

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              • #8
                the science of it all

                Hello,

                Gene, you need a technician to answer your question...not a lay person!

                Using myself as an example, I inherited my hair color from my [paternal] grandmother's side of the family...which demonstrates that I carry a portion of their DNA. Even so, women do not have the DNA for paternal lines that is presently measured for genetic genealogy. The reverse is true for men on their maternal lines...[drop the hair-color story...it only applies to me!]

                Hopefully, one day it will be discovered.... This is one of the reasons that DNA is being placed in a pool by FTDNA for 25 yrs., one would suppose....

                Clara

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gene2005
                  please explain, this to me. since all males carries both dna from both parents, wouldn`t logical for the mtdna and ydna tests to read the dna from all the direct ascendents(including my great grand mother on my fathers` & great great grand father on my mother`s side)? i`m a male ,who order the DNAPlus kit. and if not , do you think it`s possible, there`ll be sometesting for it someday in the near future? thank you

                  Gene your dad had his dads ydna who had his dads ydna
                  not your dads moms dads ydna
                  he does have his moms mtdna but he doesnt share it with anyone

                  your mom had her moms mtdna who had her moms mtda not her dads moms dna
                  ftdna had this web page http://www.familytreedna.com/tc.html
                  your dad only has the blue ydna no other ydna
                  your mom only has the red mtdna

                  everything else inside the v is not taken so you dont know your moms dads ydna

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                  • #10
                    That tree is a little misleading. Keep in mind that M0 has the same mtDNA as his sister F0. If you want to trace the F lineage from the pair of siblings M0 and F0, you could get all that information from M0. Males get their mother's mtDNA and their father's Y, their sisters get their mother's mtdna but no Y. They get an X instead, and X mixes itself up with other X's in females so that it cannot be used to trace lineages.

                    What is my point? If you are a male, and you believe that your sister is really from the same mother as you, don't waste time or money having her mtDNA tested,, it is the same as yours. And if someone sells you a kit for her Y DNA, I have some nice swampland in Louisiana...I mean Florida...to sell you.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dentate
                      That tree is a little misleading. Keep in mind that M0 has the same mtDNA as his sister F0. If you want to trace the F lineage from the pair of siblings M0 and F0, you could get all that information from M0. Males get their mother's mtDNA and their father's Y, their sisters get their mother's mtdna but no Y. They get an X instead, and X mixes itself up with other X's in females so that it cannot be used to trace lineages.

                      What is my point? If you are a male, and you believe that your sister is really from the same mother as you, don't waste time or money having her mtDNA tested,, it is the same as yours. And if someone sells you a kit for her Y DNA, I have some nice swampland in Louisiana...I mean Florida...to sell you.

                      female dna is important too my friend
                      i run 6 projects based on mtdna the chart is clear it gives you exactly the situation with siblings and parents of the siblings.
                      in genetics people try and make surnames the most important when what is most important is location and time

                      matches are important even if they dont have the same surnames for a hundred reasons.

                      so buying a mtdna test isnt buying swampland as you suggest

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gene2005
                        i dont know how to find the progress report for my mtdna hvr1&2 tests. i look on my personal web page, its tell me, the target results date, when its should be done . but i find out my mtdna hvr1 starts at 10/8 . i would like to find out the whole information,if, posssbible. how do i go by to done that? thank you.
                        things get done in stages 1-12 then 25-37 then hrv1 and hrv2 i think thats the orders

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jim Denning
                          things get done in stages 1-12 then 25-37 then hrv1 and hrv2 i think thats the orders
                          i recieved a notification of a kit recieved this week so i went to find it
                          here is what it says
                          The next step is the processing of your sample at our lab. When the lab
                          has completed the processing, you will be notified immediately by email.

                          Our tests meet the highest standard for precision and reliability which
                          requires individual verification by very skilled professionals. Therefore,
                          typical times between the time when the kit goes to the lab for processing
                          and the availability of results is:
                          12 Marker Y-DNA - 4 weeks
                          25 Marker Y-DNA - 6 weeks
                          37 Marker Y-DNA - 6 weeks
                          12 to 25 Marker Y-DNA Upgrade - 4 Weeks
                          12 to 37 Marker Y-DNA Upgrade - 4 Weeks
                          25 to 37 Marker Y-DNA Upgrade - 2 Weeks
                          mtDNA Tests - 5 Weeks

                          (kits go to the lab in batches every 2 weeks)

                          These times are for tests that have a successful outcome from the first
                          run at the lab. Approximately 85% of the first runs are successful. The
                          tests are rerun on the other 15% until a good result is obtained.
                          Unfortunately, each rerun adds two weeks to the process. We understand
                          that the delay is frustrating to participants. When a delay occurs, your
                          sample is being rerun as many times as it takes to achieve a successful
                          result.

                          so if you just miss a batch that batch waits 2 weeks and is shipped batches are sent i think on thurs like today
                          but if you upgrade you get the next batch and are added to it
                          remember the average for a batch last jan for the year before it was 900 new kits. this means one batch might be 150 for slow two week period and 2000 for a heavier and 3500 for the weeks after christmas

                          and that was before the national geo project
                          but the good thing now is people are now getting more matches and projects are growing faster
                          and that is the goal to test more people some who are relavent to me like a dannanberg to answer my questions

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                          • #14
                            this kit the one i posted the post before about is in this stage now
                            DNA Test Progress
                            Event Date Comment
                            Kit Received 10/4/2005

                            Batch 0 created


                            DNA Isolation began


                            DNA at Sequencing facility


                            Quality Control began


                            *Target Results Date



                            The above are ‘targets’ dates provided used by the lab. Actual dates may vary due to the number of kits in your batch, as well as the need to re-run the sample.

                            If you have ordered an extended Y-DNA test you’ll most likely receive the first 12 markers back followed in a few days by the next set of 13 markers. Quality Control is very strict about 2 sets of eyes confirming every score. This takes a little longer, but it also dramatically reduces the chance that an incorrect score is reported!

                            If more than a week went by from the targeted date without your results being posted, it means that most probably we did not get a result on the first pass during the sequencing process. From our lab's experience this happens in about 10 - 15% of the times.

                            This can be caused by a number of factors, such as a poor scrape, or a marker may produce a "dual peak" where a single peak is expected.

                            In all of these cases we will re-run the entire sequence from the same DNA that was extracted from vial A. This will produce a complete new set of scores for your sample. The two sets are compared, and the geneticist makes a determination. If once again the results are incomplete we then extract the DNA from vial B and start the above process again.

                            The lack of results after this series of attempts (2 from vial A and 2 from vial B) will prompt us to send you a new kit (free of charge) for a new scraping, as the initial samples didn't give the lab enough quality DNA to work from.

                            Although this adds to the delivery time, it ensures that we report accurate results, so please bear with us as in the final analysis accuracy is far more important than speed

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                            • #15
                              all that said i have been here a couple of years and i understand all the complaints. some have happened to me . but i run 10 projects i actually run them as part of a larger project.I have seen membership grow depite rootsweb disallowing us talking in their boards.
                              I have seen the work these guys have done here and while not perfect. Everytime i needed an answer the president wrote me back and answered my email. the staff is always helpful too. but i just posted about growing membership in another post. there was a time i didnt think my groups would ever grow. that problem is gone my membership is up in most of my groups by 300% or more. sure these guys have had some trouble but sucess is a good problem better then no tests each month. why?
                              because thats how you are going to get results. the goal of all of us should be 90,000,000 testees and projects with 1000 members. I think ftdna has been in the forefront of making that happen

                              everybody is understanding what waiting is like its horrible but your results will be better with more matches

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