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Old 28th August 2012, 04:58 PM
Lklundin Lklundin is offline
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R-L48: Age and Origin ?

What is the current best estimate of the age and origin of R-L48 ?

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Old 28th August 2012, 06:42 PM
Wing_Genealogis Wing_Genealogis is offline
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Dating clades is still a hotly debated topic, and any dates given today may change a bit in the future.

With the above in mind, L48 is thought to be roughly 4200 years old and believed to have originated among the people who were later described by the Romans as the Germanic tribes of Europe.

If you have not already done so, you may want to join the R1b1c_U106-S21 Yahoogroup http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/ and the R1b-U106 Haplogroup project through FT-DNA (which should be an option in your FT-DNA account) New information on the subclades below U106 (including L48) are usually first posted on these sites.


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Old 29th August 2012, 05:53 AM
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Lars signature indicates that he is L20+, not L48+, so I don't recommend that he join the U106 project.

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Old 29th August 2012, 09:01 AM
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Lars signature indicates that he is L20+, not L48+, so I don't recommend that he join the U106 project.

Timothy Peterman
No, I would not join the U106 with my own kit, but I administrate another kit which is R-L48 and with this one I have joined the U106 project. (Both are in my signature with links to their ysearch page.)

Btw, I read on the U106 project (but now I cannot find it again), that the highest frequency of U106 is around the Netherlands, whereas the greatest diversity within U106 is in Poland or the baltic countries.

Normally, the region with the greatest diversity is assumed to be the origin of the clade.

What is the best estimate of the origin of R-U106 ?

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-Lars.
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Old 30th August 2012, 08:41 AM
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My understanding is that L11 originated in maybe 3,000 BC. P312 & U106 came along in maybe 2,500 BC. I think Eupedia suggests that U106 is younger, like maybe 1,000 BC.

The estimates seem to vary all over the place.

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