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Old 5th April 2017, 01:39 PM
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I just used it as a generic term since on the map the area that FTDNA highlights most of "East Europe" is roughly the greater Galicia area the traditional homeland of the Ruthenenians before they were assimilated by the Ukrainians, Poles, etc.

I also study ethncities and populations over time, but thats separate from DNA stuff. Basically I can find no basis in my tree for the addition of Eastern European and British DNA, and I am positive it is overstating the British DNA at the very least.
Ah, I see. Mine shows that as well, which makes sense for me. I hope you are able to figure yours out!
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Old 5th April 2017, 03:28 PM
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Pending Results

All of my people are done except for my aunt. Her's is "pending". Anyone else still waiting as of noon, April 5th?
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Old 5th April 2017, 03:39 PM
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I had 35% Scandinavian and now 0%....

It looks like the results are now closer to what ancestry.com shows but I'm now more confused than ever.
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Old 5th April 2017, 05:36 PM
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My new origins percentages have changed slightly. I used to be 100% European with 57% West/Central Europe and 43% Scandinavia. Now I'm 99% European with 60% West/Central Europe and 32% Scandinavia and 5% East European (? where that came from) and Finland less than 2% (I do have a Finnish Ancestor) My brother's changed the most from 100% European (about 75/25 percent breakdown in the same regions that I had previously. Now he has 96% European with 66% West/Central Europe, 30% Scandinavia, less than 2% each for Finnish and East European. Then he has 0% for the New World with less than 2% South America (? but I think it's noise) and 0% Central/South Asian with less than 2% again in Oceania (? again probably noise) Those two traces aren't even considered in the overall percentages. But it basically mean not much has really changed from the very first ethnic test which gave us both pretty much the same European background, only with the difference of having the trace areas called + or - margin or error.
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Old 5th April 2017, 06:22 PM
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All of my people are done except for my aunt. Her's is "pending". Anyone else still waiting as of noon, April 5th?
Still waiting. I think the "check back in 24 hours" resets every time you check.
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Old 5th April 2017, 07:30 PM
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A whole lot of British and Noise

Wow...where do I start?
This new algorithm shows me as very British: 24% more than my parents combined! On paper I'm approximately 62% British Isles, 23andme reported 57% and I don't recall myOrigins 1.0 but it was somewhere between 40-60. Now I'm 81% along with 12% Western/Central European.

The numbers just don't add up when you look at my family. If I didn't know better, I even might go as far as to question my paternity since my dad shows 29% Scandinavian and 20% Iberian- I am zero for both.

I got a bunch of fun "noise" for the last 7% including <2% East Central African, Finland, Sephardic, Oceania & Eastern European. Of course only Eastern European and Finland are reflected in my parents.
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Old 5th April 2017, 07:44 PM
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Curious about New My Origins

Hi all

I'm very curious about how the whole thing works. It would be good if there were a guide. My ethnic makeup has changed substantially. I understand somewhat how this happens as your databases change, your markers change, clusters change etc.

However my fudamental question is, given that the British Isles population arrived there over various waves and many thousands of years, what does the British component mean. I thought the My Origins would ultimately be able to work out where we have genetic matches along the migration roots to the British Isles. That is, did some of us come through Scandinavia or ancient routes from Iberian peninsula

Would ike to know if there is a guide on the methdodology to know what the British Isles component acutally means. Does it relate to shared genes from other contemporaneous British people - ie a cluster of who is there now - or does it incorporate markers to show where we actually came from

Specifically I am interested in the big change in percentage between Scandinavia and British Isles this time round

cheers Anon
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Old 5th April 2017, 07:46 PM
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Wow...where do I start?
This new algorithm shows me as very British: 24% more than my parents combined! On paper I'm approximately 62% British Isles, 23andme reported 57% and I don't recall myOrigins 1.0 but it was somewhere between 40-60. Now I'm 81% along with 12% Western/Central European.

The numbers just don't add up when you look at my family. If I didn't know better, I even might go as far as to question my paternity since my dad shows 29% Scandinavian and 20% Iberian- I am zero for both.

I got a bunch of fun "noise" for the last 7% including <2% East Central African, Finland, Sephardic, Oceania & Eastern European. Of course only Eastern European and Finland are reflected in my parents.
The noise is to be expected...fact is its not an exact science, its about interpreting based on sample populations. If they tested the whole world, they give us all more accurate number. Its an evolving field.

In terms of the Britishness, on one hand it is entirely possible for you to be more "British" than both of your parents. Remember you are not a combination of both of them entirely, you are a combination of half of each of them....so in theory you could have inherited their Britishness without inheriting their non-Britishness. BUT on the other hand, I am seeing enough skewed results (including my own, a Central Italian for over 400 years of history suddenly showing 6% British DNA) to conclude that for some reason British is being interpreted as an origin way more often than it should.

This is not unprecedented. In the old FTDNA MyOrigins, all Italians showed approximately 1/3 of their Italian DNA as being from "Asia Minor" - and this has entirely disappeared from the new MyOrigins. its all about how they interpret, and clearly they fixed some problems and created others.
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Old 5th April 2017, 07:49 PM
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Hi all

Specifically I am interested in the big change in percentage between Scandinavia and British Isles this time round

cheers Anon
Your question mirrors a lot of peoples, including mine. A lot of people seem to suddenly have an increase of British Isles DNA results in their new MyOrigins.

My answer is, this is a flaw in their interpretation model. People who should have no British, and had no British before suddenly do. And people who had British have their British DNA % increased now. This might be brushed aside for some Americans/colonials, but Europeans who know their genetic history through genealogy combined with DNA matches have no valid explanation for this. If anything British people should be showing more non-British DNA since, as you said, they are a highly mixed people.

My explanation is that this is a mistake they will need to fix. Hopefully they are paying attention. The last interpretation result error I found, giving Italians Asia Minor DNA is massive amounts, took them years to address and until they fixed it they never even acknowledged it as a flaw. They just made excuses or ignored it.
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Old 5th April 2017, 09:11 PM
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Thumbs down My DNA results in myOrigins 2.0 are WAY OFF

I just looked at my DNA results in myOrigins 2.0 and they are so inaccurate.

For the record, myOrigins 2.0 says that my DNA is 84% West European, 15% Scandinavian, 2% Central Asian.

It is true that I have West European blood, and I believe the Scandinavian and Central Asian are possible and wouldn't necessarily rule them out. But I also have a substantial amount of Scottish and Welsh blood from both my parents; especially my mother, who has at least 40-50% Scottish and Welsh blood.

Yet myOrigins 2.0 says I have 0% British Isles blood.

I know for a fact this is untrue.

I did get these DNA results from uploading a text file of my DNA results from Ancestry.com to Family Tree DNA about a year ago. I remember the DNA results from the previous version of myOrigins were more accurate then than they are now. Do these types of DNA data tend to be less accurate than DNA obtained from actual body fluids?
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