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Old 14th May 2015, 01:27 PM
Karim Karim is offline
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And now i see another change in my haplotree page the Haplogroup R is assigned "presumed negatif'' and T haplogroup is assigned "test in progerss" what this mean? is this is the begin of change of haplogroup or what?

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Old 14th May 2015, 01:46 PM
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I hade this banner the last two day, despite i'am R-M459 (R1A1) confirmed by BIG Y test, and it is disapeared today but when i verified my haplotree page i found this notice "The undifferentiated R1 lineage is quite rare. It is found only at very low frequencies in Europe, Central Asia, and South Asia. This lineage possibly originated in Europe and then migrated east into Asia" so according this notice i'am not R1A1 haplogroup confirmed but R1 can anyone of ftdna team explaine this incohérence?
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The undifferentiated R1 lineage is quite rare. It is found only at very low frequencies in Europe, Central Asia, and South Asia. This lineage possibly originated in Europe and then migrated east into Asia.
That is on all the kits that have Y-DNA haplogroup R, I have access too. Waiting for FTDNA...

Mr. W.
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Old 14th May 2015, 01:49 PM
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And now i see another change in my haplotree page the Haplogroup R is assigned "presumed negatif'' and T haplogroup is assigned "test in progerss" what this mean? is this is the begin of change of haplogroup or what?


Broken, broken, broken, waiting for FTDNA, waiting, waiting...

Should I eat chocolate or ice cream? Go for a nice walk? Watch a good movie? What else can I do to not get nervous about current changes at FTDNA?

Mr. W.
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Old 14th May 2015, 01:58 PM
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Broken, broken, broken, waiting for FTDNA, waiting, waiting...

Should I eat chocolate or ice cream? Go for a nice walk? Watch a good movie? What else can I do to not get nervous about current changes at FTDNA?

Mr. W.
waiting,waiting, waiting ...............until...........
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Old 14th May 2015, 04:54 PM
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I think FTDNA's IT department needs a good pest control company.
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Old 20th June 2015, 06:22 AM
Martin J Daly Martin J Daly is offline
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I just hope this isn't a ploy to get more cash from the customers.
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When I first tested my Y-DNA to twelve markers I was predicted as R-M269 then as I tested farther, the prediction went to R-L21. Now I'm back at M269 with 67 markers tested. I understand why the prediction went one way and now is stepping back. And at this point I think I'll just leave it as the 111 marker test just costs too much. Maybe someday I'll see a point to digging really deeply into my genetics, but at the moment I'm interested in my more recent genealogy.
I made that decision when I was dropped back to R-M269 from CTS4466. I too, am more interested in my more recent genealogy. My autosomal test confirms my Daly paper tree to 1835, but my Y test has given me nothing so far. My Daly surname doesn't even appear until my 60th Y match and not again until many, many more matches later, and I am in the Daly Surname, Munster Irish and CTS4466+ groups. Most Dalys, who have paid for Y-111 are also stuck in R-M269. What's the point in spending any more money for more nothing?
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Old 20th June 2015, 08:03 AM
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R-M269's don't need to upgrade STR's, they need to snp test. But, yes, it will cost more money. FTDNA has long nickel-and-dimed their customers and, IMO, doesn't offer enough practical guidance, instead relying on groups and administrators. If you join a group with an engaged, informed administrator...great. You might find what you're looking for with the minimum required expenditure. But in my experience there are a lot of administrators that are disengaged, misguided, or uninformed about current Y findings. When my grandpa's CTS1751 snp came in positive, I sent an email to all his matches informing them to see if any were interested in exploring whether they are also CTS1751. I only got one response, from a group administrator who manages accounts for those in her group, who said that her guys were all L21, not CTS1751. CTS1751 is downstream of L21 and all CTS1751+'s would also be L21+ too. Later, I did get one match to test CTS1751 and he turned out to be CTS1751+ but I guess I may never know about the other matches. And that's a problem if you are trying to pursue this hobby to see where you fit in the bigger picture.
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Old 20th June 2015, 03:35 PM
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Everyone's circumstances are different and it depends on what the tester wants to know but I do worry a little about the volume of testers that are buying expensive STR tests when all they might want to know is what sub clade they belong to and would be better off with an inexpensive SNP test.

Y111 has it's place in helping people further explore their close Y67 matches (if they have any) but it's not the first place to go for people who are interested in exploring their sub clade. Depending on what matches you get Y37 can often be good enough in shining a light on what snips to test.

Earl.
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Old 20th June 2015, 04:25 PM
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Everyone's circumstances are different and it depends on what the tester wants to know but I do worry a little about the volume of testers that are buying expensive STR tests when all they might want to know is what sub clade they belong to and would be better off with an inexpensive SNP test.

Y111 has it's place in helping people further explore their close Y67 matches (if they have any) but it's not the first place to go for people who are interested in exploring their sub clade. Depending on what matches you get Y37 can often be good enough in shining a light on what snips to test.

Earl.

Agreed, all that most need is 12 STRs to join the projects, once one knows his basic haplogroup, all one need is the SNPs Penal for that haplogroup, and in case their are more than one penals for that haplogroup then it is better to use much cheaper YSEQ SNP test.
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