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Old 15th April 2013, 01:09 PM
prairielad prairielad is offline
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ydna 12 to ydna 111 upgrade.

I have been debating upgrading my maternal uncles yDNA 12 kit to 111 whenever the next sale happens and was wondering off hand if anyone knows what the price would be....

Looking in the upgrade section I only see yDNA12 to 67.

His yDNA is out of Norway and surname was only standardized c.1850.
Not looking for matches so much, as this line is extensively research back to the early 1700's with the collaboration of Distant cousins who still reside on Family Farm in Norway. Looking to gain more info on a deeper understanding of Haplogroup which is currently predicted as R-M198 (R1a1a).

I know Geno 2.0 is the best route, but that depends on my Uncle...
May just do the 67 marker upgrade and then figure out which SNPs to test from there....


Edit: I had meant to post this in yDNA section, feel free to move it

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Old 15th April 2013, 01:47 PM
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I can't speak for what the next sale prices will be, but in previous sales the upgrade price has been $148 (12 -> 67) and $109 (67 -> 111).
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Old 15th April 2013, 02:22 PM
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Phoned FTDNA ,as I suspected that ydna12 to 111 is not offered. Would need to upgrade to it in 2 step process. Either you order from the get go or do it in 3 steps if 1st step was yDNA12.

Should mention that testing to 111 is more just for my curiosity to see which other surnames(out of Norway) it will show and fact it may aid projects.
Will have to look at projects pages and determine how many people have tested to this level first and then decide which level will suit my need (curiosity)
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Old 15th April 2013, 03:09 PM
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It's also something of an investment in the future. I was one of the "Beta" Y111 customers, and even now I only have four Y111 matches (none closer than GD6). Still, it will hopefully grow over time.

It's an option for your testing budget if you have no pressing relatives to get tested.
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Old 15th April 2013, 04:53 PM
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I would recommend getting the upgrade to 67 markers, then joining the R1a1a and Subclades Y-DNA Project. They'll be able to advise you on how best to proceed, either with an 111-marker upgrade or with individual SNP tests.

The Geno2 project is bringing forth results that are constantly changing the R1a1a tree, so you may well be advices to wait a while after the 67-marker test.
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Old 17th April 2013, 02:39 PM
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FYI.....I went from 67 to 111 markers. I learned nothing of value from the jump to 111 marker...for one thing almost no one in my group, J1c3d, has done the 111 test. Stick to the 67 marker test. Ct
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Old 17th April 2013, 05:26 PM
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The one person in my small J1 cluster who ordered 111 has provided me with the incentive I needed to upgrade. Since we're trying to learn as much as we can about this basal cluster, I hope all six of us will be at 111 eventually so we can determine the most accurate TMRCA.
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Old 17th April 2013, 08:25 PM
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good luck Vinnie. I have one 104 marker match and he was off by 5 on the 67 marker. He also did the Family Finder and we showed no FF connection. Qien sabe? Ct
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Old 17th April 2013, 08:40 PM
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good luck Vinnie. I have one 104 marker match and he was off by 5 on the 67 marker. He also did the Family Finder and we showed no FF connection. Qien sabe? Ct
Thank you, but I don't expect a "match" in genealogical terms; it's evident that it's been centuries since our lines diverged, but the TMRCA might actually be closer than it appears to be now.
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Old 17th April 2013, 09:38 PM
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I fully understand the limitations of 111, and never suggest anyone to upgrade to this level without a little research in their projects and advice from admins.

I too would only be doing the 111 upgrade on Uncles kit more so to aid project and others at this point, maybe in time it will give me an idea how closely other Norwegian names are related to this line in terms of TMRCA.

I am not overly concerned with finding matches, other then the curiousity of possible related surnames which will vary.

I originally did the 111 test on my paternal line knowing I wouldn't have any surname matches, did it more for the L165 project and fact that my direct line had multiple recent mutations(Total of 3 GD within last 2 generations). To date only 1 other in my matching surname cluster has tested and matches 105/111. He also matches as 5th to Remote on one of my paternal kits with common ancestor somewhere pre 1800 Scotland. Also have one at 102/111 with a different Scottish Surname

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