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Old 22nd June 2012, 01:07 AM
briancowings briancowings is offline
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PF vs AncestryDNA

I received my Ancestry results and they are more refined than PF.

On PF I have about 96% Orcadian and 4% ME. Ancestry gives
61% British
27% Scandinavian
12% Eastern Europe

How are Ancestry able to split the Orcadian?

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Old 22nd June 2012, 07:18 AM
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I dont know anything about their test but Ancestry has access to SMGF data base
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Old 22nd June 2012, 10:23 AM
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I received my Ancestry results and they are more refined than PF.

On PF I have about 96% Orcadian and 4% ME. Ancestry gives
61% British
27% Scandinavian
12% Eastern Europe

How are Ancestry able to split the Orcadian?

Thanks
The same way that Dr McDonald can split it into Irish and British. It is based upon the samples used in the PCA calculations. Since PF only uses Orcadian as its principle British, Irish, Scottish, etc. sample comparison then that is all that will show up for those populations.

McDonald uses more samples and apparently so does Ancestry.

Matt.
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Old 25th June 2012, 05:54 AM
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Thanks Matt

Do you know if FTDNA plans to split the Orcadian as a principle group as Ancestry have or not?


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The same way that Dr McDonald can split it into Irish and British. It is based upon the samples used in the PCA calculations. Since PF only uses Orcadian as its principle British, Irish, Scottish, etc. sample comparison then that is all that will show up for those populations.

McDonald uses more samples and apparently so does Ancestry.

Matt.
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Old 25th June 2012, 10:49 AM
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FTDNA wants to add more sample groups and I know German was one of interest, which right now shows up as Orcadian. I don't have a list of any additional samples.

Matt.
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Old 25th June 2012, 07:48 PM
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I did find out that FTDNA will not have a new PF version out for some time yet as in not for months. It will have more samples however no information is going to be released about any of it until its out.

Matt.

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Old 26th June 2012, 08:50 PM
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coupons

Hey,

I would like to know whether coupons and sales for PF from FTDNA also apply to those of us wanting to upgrade?

So is a $100 coupon going to let me get PF for $99?
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Old 26th June 2012, 09:06 PM
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Population Finder (PF) is a component of the Family Finder test. Any time you order a Family Finder test you will get the PF part of it included.

This includes 23andMe transfers to Family Finder, or the $289 Family Finder lab test, or any special offers for the Family Finder lab test. The last special offer for the Family Finder test expired on 6/10/12. I don't know about any other offers such as a $100 or $99 coupon.

Matt.

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Old 26th June 2012, 09:24 PM
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Population Finder (PF) is a component of the Family Finder test. Any time you order a Family Finder test you will get the PF part of it included.

This includes 23andMe transfers to Family Finder, or the $289 Family Finder lab test, or any special offers for the Family Finder lab test. The last special offer for the Family Finder test expired on 6/10/12. I don't know about any other offers such as a $100 or $99 coupon.

Matt.
I was refering to the information in the link in your signature:

http://findingdnafamily.com/


It says $289 for Family Finder with a $199 upgrade price.

Since I know FTDNA regularly gives out coupons/discounts I was wondering if these are allow ...

...nevermind I logged in and they don't offer a discount for Family Finder tests. I'd have to pay the full price. A ludicrous $289.

I saw somewhere in their site the are offering full sequencing for less than $900. That's obviously the best deal but I wonder if it includes, as a matter of policy, the 111 Y-DNA, the full mtDNA, and the Family Finder analysis or whether it just a sequence and no analysis done afterwards?
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Old 26th June 2012, 11:27 PM
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I already knew what different European populations my ancestors came from, for the most part. And the PF is too generalized. The only thing that has recently surprised me was a genetic connection with Bohemia, which I assume was via my Austrian maternal grandfather. But I didn't find that out from Population Finder.
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