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Old 12th November 2016, 02:33 PM
vinnie vinnie is offline
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Ancient Origins

Very tentative comparisons from just of few of the members in the projects I administrate: Southern Italians/Sicilians have more Metal Age than Hunter Gatherer as compared to Western/Northern/Eastern Europeans. Some Sicilians showing non-European in contrast to South-Central Italians. Jews very similar to Southern Italians/Sicilians, except a bit more Metal Age, and they are closer to Sicilians with non-European in contrast to Southern Italians.
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Old 12th November 2016, 03:31 PM
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Southern Italians/Sicilians low to high teens for Metal Age, low to high teens for Hunters, but above 60% for Farmers.
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Old 12th November 2016, 04:33 PM
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16% metal age invader, 52% farmer, 32% Hunter-Gatherer
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Old 12th November 2016, 08:28 PM
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49% Hunter-Gatherer
39% Farmer
12% Metal Age Invader
0% non-European

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Old 12th November 2016, 08:38 PM
MMaddi MMaddi is offline
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Here are the AncientOrigins numbers for me, 50% Sicilian and 50% southern Italian:

65% Farmer
18% Hunter-Gatherer
17% Metal Age Invader

I like this new feature. It gives the kind of ancient ancestry estimates that the GEDmatch calculators give. I'm referring to the basic components, not the 1, 2, 3 and 4 populations Oracle estimates, which can be wildly off from a person's actual ancestry.
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Old 12th November 2016, 11:33 PM
KaiserT KaiserT is offline
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Ancient European Origins

My autosomal DNA reveals 84% Central/South Asian, 13% Mid-Eastern and 2% European (Finnish & N Siberian) ancestry, as per FTDNA testing.
FTDNA's new 'Ancient European Origins' feature reveals 63% Metal Age Invader, 23% Farmer, 14% Non-European and 0% Hunter-Gatherer. How do I interpret this, considering the fact that I am essentially a non-European? Is the Ancient Origins a breakdown of my 2% European origin? Can someone help?

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Old 13th November 2016, 05:09 AM
Littlest bit Littlest bit is offline
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Polish mother-in-law:
14% Metal Age Invader
37% Farmer
49% Hunter Gatherer
0% non European

Majority UK/Irish w/lesser German American colonial:
10% Metal Age Invader
44% Farmer
46% Hunter Gatherer
0% non European
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Old 13th November 2016, 02:16 PM
keigh keigh is offline
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My Origins are 100% European with 57% West/Central Europe and 43% Scandinavia

Ancient Origins 10% Metal Age Invader, 44% Farmer, and 46% Hunter-Gatherer with 0% Non-European.

Paper trail from my father's side: Irish, English, Scots, Swiss, Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, German, French, Dutch, Flemish. My mother's side isn't as clear her grandparents are brick wall type of people. But I gather that they are from somewhere in north-western Europe.
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Old 13th November 2016, 06:11 PM
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Does the "Metal Age Invaders" category represent the Indo-European influence/people?
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Old 13th November 2016, 06:21 PM
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Here's FTDNA's description for Metal Age Invader.

"Following the Neolithic Era (New Stone Age), the Bronze Age (3,000–1,000 BCE) is defined by a further iteration in tool making technology. Improving on the stone tools from the Paleolithic and Neolithic Eras, tool makers of the early Bronze Age relied heavily on the use of copper tools, incorporating other metals such as bronze and tin later in the era. The third major wave of migration into the European continent is comprised of peoples from this Bronze Age; specifically, Nomadic herding cultures from the Eurasian steppes found north of the Black Sea. These migrants were closely related to the people of the Black Sea region known as the Yamnaya.

This migration of Asian Steppe nomads into the temperate regions further west changed culture and life on the European continent in a multitude of ways. Not only did the people of the Yamnaya culture bring their domesticated horses, wheeled vehicles, and metal tools; they are also credited for delivering changes to the social and genetic makeup of the region. By 2,800 BCE, evidence of new Bronze Age cultures, such as the Bell Beaker and Corded Ware, were emerging throughout much of Western and Central Europe. In the East around the Urals, a group referred to as the Sintashta emerged, expanding east of the Caspian Sea bringing with them chariots and trained horses around 4,000 years ago.

These new cultures formed through admixture between the local European farming cultures and the newly arrived Yamnaya peoples. Research into the influence the Yamnaya culture had on the European continent has also challenged previously held linguistic theories of the origins of Indo-European language. Previous paradigms argued that the Indo-European languages originated from populations from Anatolia; however, present research into the Yamnaya cultures has caused a paradigm shift and linguists now claim the Indo-European languages are rooted with the Yamnaya peoples.

By the Bronze Age, the Y-chromosome haplogroup R1b was quickly gaining dominance in Western Europe (as we see today) with high frequencies of individuals belonging to the M269 subclade. Ancient DNA evidence supports the hypothesis that the R1b was introduced into mainland Europe by the Asian Steppe invaders coming from the Black Sea region. Further DNA evidence suggests that a lactose tolerance originated from the Yamnaya or another closely tied steppe group. Current day populations in Northern Europe typically show a higher frequency of relatedness to Yamnaya populations, as well as earlier populations of Western European Hunter-Gatherer societies."
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