Go Back   Family Tree DNA Forums > Universal Lineage Testing (Autosomal DNA) > Family Finder Advanced Topics

Family Finder Advanced Topics Advanced discussion about Family Tree DNA's Family Finder Product.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 9th August 2017, 06:06 PM
ech124 ech124 is offline
FTDNA Customer
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 202
V5 Chip

Apparently 23andme has just started giving new results based on their customized V5 chip.

My question is has anyone successfully transferred to FTDNA using that file (it has V5 right in the file name)?

I know that for a while FTDNA allowed V3, but not V4. They had to do special programming to allow V4. Now that there is V5, will that be rejected also?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10th August 2017, 05:11 PM
ech124 ech124 is offline
FTDNA Customer
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 202
I am hearing some more information about the V5 chip.

It just came into production at 23andme this week. It will take an unknown period of time to replace every machine, but it will happen.

Someone uploaded the new file to Gedmatch, and based on comparing it to a FTDNA file there, there was only about 159000 SNPs in common. Based on that, I think there is no way FTDNA can do anything with a V5 transfer. That will mean a decline in 23andme transfers as their database eventually becomes V5 dominated.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10th August 2017, 05:17 PM
georgian1950 georgian1950 is offline
FTDNA Customer
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 641
Quote:
Originally Posted by ech124 View Post
I am hearing some more information about the V5 chip.

It just came into production at 23andme this week. It will take an unknown period of time to replace every machine, but it will happen.

Someone uploaded the new file to Gedmatch, and based on comparing it to a FTDNA file there, there was only about 159000 SNPs in common. Based on that, I think there is no way FTDNA can do anything with a V5 transfer. That will mean a decline in 23andme transfers as their database eventually becomes V5 dominated.
That does not bode well for GEDmatch, or quite frankly for autosomal matching in general.

Jack
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11th August 2017, 05:21 AM
georgian1950 georgian1950 is offline
FTDNA Customer
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 641
Quote:
Originally Posted by georgian1950 View Post
That does not bode well for GEDmatch, or quite frankly for autosomal matching in general.

Jack
Interestingly, GEDmatch has added this on its homepage:

"Aug 10 2017 NOTICE to 23andMe Customers: 23andMe is now using the GSA chip for their new V5 raw DNA file results. This format is not compatible with the regular GEDmatch upload, but can be used with the GEDmatch Genesis upload. Use the link in the lower right column of this page."
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 27th August 2017, 11:11 AM
mcornejo mcornejo is offline
FTDNA Customer
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Dubai
Posts: 14
I tested in 23andme and was not able to import their V5 chip raw results in FTDNA. I went on the new GEDmatch tool, Genesis, where I have imported my FTDNA Family Finder results, uploaded 23andme V5 results, and when comparing to my FTDNA FF kit, the "Overlap" field returns a value of 159,751, whilst when comparing my FTDNA FF kit to my parents', the "Overlap" value is higher up to 680,568. "Overlap" is defined by GEDmatch as the number of positions that exist in common between both kits, without regard to whether they match or not.

Doing a quick visual inspection, I can notice that for other 23andme kits, the Overlap is higher in excess of 300,000, perhaps pre V5 kits, and for Ancestry.com in excess of 400,000.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What chip? Redacted? penguin Family Finder Advanced Topics 1 23rd October 2015 09:20 PM
V4 chip NCroots Grumbles & Gripes 8 10th June 2015 05:06 PM
V4 chip ech124 Family Finder Advanced Topics 20 10th June 2015 09:23 AM
23andMe V4 Chip Berryblue Features Requests & Bug Reports Area 33 16th January 2015 01:33 AM
Which chip? lanajane Family Finder Advanced Topics 1 1st July 2012 11:44 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:57 AM.


Family Tree DNA - World Headquarters

1445 North Loop West, Suite 820
Houston, Texas 77008, USA

Phone: (713) 868-1438 | Fax: (832) 201-7147
Copyright 2001-2010 Genealogy by Genetics, Ltd.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.